Sadly, we have been down the road of Bad Star Wars movies, especially since Disney took over, too many times. At every step of the way the sacred trust and love people have for the movies prevent you from getting any read on a movie you’ve seen 10 out of context minutes of in all sorts of commercials already. From candy to cars, Star Wars sells it all.
Right now an early, spoiler-y but terrible review has emerged from GQ which kills the movie; starting with it’s really bad re-introduction of Palpatine. Here’s a quick quote that sums up what sounds awful –
The “return” of Palpatine could easily turn out to be some clever scheme by some unknown villain, who hopes gain power by drafting on the reputation of the terrifying emperor.
And then, just a minute or two later, Kylo Ren comes face-to-face with Emperor Palpatine himself—very much alive, thank you—and Rise of Skywalker starts digging a hole it never finds a way to climb out from.
This damning piece of information, which shows nothing was learned from the (Horrible) Solo Movie Easter Egg as far as being unexplained and bad, seems pretty movie-killing just on its own. Its apparently right up front and there was worse in there.
The Phantom Menace Paradox
My warning here probably won’t stop anyone either, because Star Wars Stockholm Syndrome is REAL! People sympathize with anything slapped with the Star Wars logo.
How bad is it? Well, The Phantom Menace was the biggest grossing of the Lucas made movies. So, in a sense there’s no way to measure how good the movie is. That Phantom Menace defied the few realistic but much shared bad reviews and scathing word of mouth to be the most lucrative Star Wars Movie clouded peoples judgement. The malignant concept “now they’re Bomb Proof” was born. Fortunately the prequels got better fast, but the Box Office, while still great, was a bit down after Phantom Menace initially tarnishes the concept. even though it takes til home video for anger to really emerge.
In contrast; near perfect movie Revenge of the Sith had a sort of disappointing box office. It wasn’t really about the movie, which, again, is really good. People were tired of Star Wars by this point. Some people had hated both the previous movies. Also at that point, with all the video and re-releases, they had flooded the market. These things as well as being the only R rated Star Wars movie made it a cautionary box office tale compared to the inferior film, Phantom Menace. Another bad precedent was set.
NOTE-Revenge of the Sith is slowly redeeming itself because there’s just a lot worse Star Wars movies out there. It had mixed reviews and was somewhat overlooked initially, but that’s another post.
But the idea a truly bad Star Wars movie was still going to do great financially was out there and it was just too intoxicating. Crank out the movies and merch and stay away from what made Return of the Sith great was sort of built into the game plan.
Disney seems to have taken this as a license of sorts. They know the movies can’t truly fail (or so we still think), so what difference does it make if it could be better so long as it opens on time? Sort of like “Its crazy to own an Orange Grove and not plant oranges in orange season.” They paid out the nose for this and they built a theme park around it that costs a fortune to go to.
No one believes they’re ever going to slow down the franchise until they can make, you know, decent movies. They just want their holiday Skywalker franchise and their summer Star Wars Stories to open on time. After all, a lengthy delay didn’t help SOLO, which wasn’t even the best Sci-Fi movie with a Paul Bettany Death Scene in theaters that week (That would have been Avengers: Infinity Wars).
Critics have finally found some courage since the disaster that was The Last Jedi and the lackluster “Solo” movie that just felt like what many said it was- a wikipedia page on screen. So while Rogue One was an amazing view, the other three movies from the JJ Abrams crew up to now are bad or even awful.
The Curious Curse of Hiring JJ Abrams
While some people might be more forgiving, JJ Abrams will always be the guy who gave us the worst series ending of all time with LOST way back in the day. A seed was planted – JJ Abrams can only wrote beginnings. Nothing since then has disproved it.
Abrams romp through the Star Trek Universe left it so messed up things are still not really together a decade later! Chances Quentin Tarantino directs a Star Trek movie are far from high and seeming to drop weekly. The two TV shows, one bad, one yet to be seen, won’t be on regular TV but a streaming pay service from CBS. In the case of Discovery, season one wasn’t good enough for TV. The other show, Picard, appears to exist outside the so called “Kelvin Timeline” people so hate, so it may be good.
The truth is JJ Abrams is a Tropey, check off the boxes and terribly safe writer on the Star Wars movies. He’s mistake prone and creates boring enemy ships and aliens. The formula when Abrams is writing is schematic and transactional, never, ever missing a merchandising plug. Grasping at any plot device to advance from one “Star Wars Moment” to the next, we get from point A to point B in the most predictable way possible most every time.
For example- Is it really plausible Finn and Po are close friends because for 3 minutes they attempted to escape the First Order together? Consider for a moment how brief and frenetic their meeting actually is. No effort was made to really give them the kind of time together it takes to sell a buddy connection. It’s simply bad storytelling. It’s okay, you didn’t watch it wrong, it really is bad.
So the clunkiness and the impersonal nature of the heroes compounds to the point you’re just waiting for something to happen or the movie to end. JJ Abrams didn’t invest emotionally in these characters, why should we? Because he talked us out of about 18 bucks? Because getting conned sucks? I don’t know but people seem to never attack the movie without throwing some justification in there too. In this case it’s “worth it so see the end of the franchise no matter how good or bad.” It’s a cult in some ways.
Back to the new character. The fact that BB-88 is one the most popular and relatable characters says something. Non verbal and usually pure slapstick. He’s a break from the lack of substance because a droid bouncing off the walls during a space dogfight was funny and didn’t go on too long. The other characters? Maybe the fact they ARE verbal hurts? Dialogue has never been great in Star Wars, but these Disney movies feature some of the blandest techno-babble ever.
McTeag’s Law of New Star Wars Movies
The Rule seems to be ‘The further they get from Lucas material the worse the movie.’
Selling Out to Sell Toys
Who among us will ever forget the Disney lowpoint with C-3PO pointlessly mentioning his red arm? Out of context and needless. It was just there to visually (and financially) differentiate the Toy income stream. It differentiates the C-3PO toys Disney and Abrams gets more of than the ones that are more like the Lucas version, which Lucas gets more of the money from.
These movies have some of the worst toy connections ever, probably because the ships and creatures aren’t that good so they have to be pushed hard. And really, it’s only just so great compared to the Lucas conceived stuff.
At this point I have to note -JJ Abrams is also a bad toy developer, which in these movies, really hurts. The stuff he outright inherited from Lucas is amazing and we love stuff like Han’s blaster, Luke’s lightsaber and the sounds they made when primed, when fired and the level of damage they did to a target. In contrast Abram’s gave us things like Kylo Ren’s lightsaber, which angered and confused fans with its ‘self amputating’ looking crossguard.
The elephant in the room is simply money and an intellectual property contract that showed Lucas is still an amazing businessman. Disney only “owns” it just so much and Lucas seems to have found a way to get paid again if too much of HIS vision is used. It turns out Lucas is also pretty successful in litigation when he sets his pack of lawyers on people, even Disney. I don’t think he went out of his way to make this clear and waited for them to make a mistake. Rogue One was almost pure Lucas and I think, with no proof, that he had his lawyers go down there to Rat HQ at Disney with a very serious letter about how much they needed to pay for exceeding the copyright. Good for Lucas, bad for fans as the run from Lucas properties becomes a priority and a plot driver for the Disney Movies.
This is why the killing off of his properties has been central to this new series. In The Last Jedi they kill off the ships from Lucas’ movies. Before that in so-so Force Awakens, Han Solo is just plain old killed in a typical ‘Abrams Parent Killing Scene’ we’re so used to its no longer emotional. For example, he kills 2 parents in half an hour in his first, deceptively good but “all beginning” Star Trek movie. It’s his last nominally good movie. Follow up Into Darkness was a complete mess and disaster that angered all Trek fans as he seemed to sabotage the franchise on the way out the door. One of the biggest insults- lying about what was in the movie to make it pop more. “It’s not Khan but a new villain named Harrison” was ridiculous and no one was surprised it was just bull when they saw the movie.
Into Darkness was THE most apologized for moment in a Franchise that at different times has starred a bunch of geriatrics, was written by soap opera and western writers, was for a time abandoned by its creator and was led by William Shatner on a shoestring TV budget in the Politically Incorrect 1960s!!! Whats THAT say?
Since it’s the same fans for the most part, no one was all that psyched to see him land at the helm of Star Wars, and Disney has turned out to be a bad fit. Talk about “Failing Your Way Up!”
In the Disney Star Wars Universe it’s this simple -the closer they get to Lucas’ Vision of The Galaxy Far, Far Away the more Lucas must be paid. But the closer to Lucas the better the movie. Disney just wants money.
George Lucas, The Real Emperor of the Galaxy Far, Far Away
Unlike Abrams, Lucas’ genius as a filmmaker pales in comparison to his abilities as a highly profitable business man. Time and again he puts profits first and gets them.
George Lucas generated a fortune for the studios and he managed to please the fans about four and half times out of 6 tries. The only things people truly hated was his slow pace of development between projects and retconning too much.
Hollywood loved that he put profits first too. In one case a better video transfer technique was right around the corner, but the deadline was more important and a pink shift/ purple shift affected the way the entire first trilogy looked. (Note- the version in Disney Plus right now is even a little more re-engineered, with the damage from other transfers somewhat addressed.) Now it looks like he understood the market and his abilities better than people ever gave him credit for.
Theres Only One George Lucas
At the end of the day the fact is George Lucas was far and away a better creative than JJ Abrams and still made a lot of money. Mountains of it. This is because Lucas self corrected a couple of times. Abrams, contrastingly, has been making and remaking the same two plots for 15 years now. And one plot is just ‘total pasted together fan-angering mess!’ and the other is “Bad Guys Have an ad hoc Death Star”
Yes, Phantom Menace is terrible, but things improved fast despite the lack of goodwill for awhile towards the prequels. The bottom line – most of the things people hated in Phantom Menace are minimized or written away in Attack of the Clones, a movie that gets BETTER every 10 minutes even if its never really “great” it’s not terrible like its prequel and doesn’t make all the same mistakes that movie makes(only some of them, mostly upfront).
You’ll Love it for 6 Bucks
That’s right, I said it, Rise of Skywalker will be a great view in a few months when you can watch it at home for 6 bucks. You’ll probably feel pretty good about punting on it. The theater is just a bad risk now. Some people I know have already seen it and one review was ‘preposterous’. So I don’t think I’m gonna end up being wrong on this.
Don’t bother going to the theater to enable a bad incarnation of a once great franchise. The movie looks derivative and bad. The lead up and trailers are bad. The promise to slow down making the movies if we just see this one is not encouraging at all and wont be kept.
So skip this movie, or, as a wise Sith once said to Luke Skywalker; “You will pay the price for your lack of vision!”
May the Force be with You as you watch the Mandalorian with a borrowed Disney code. That at least has mostly been really good.
Just Another Sci Fi Franchise
That’s right, you heard it here first. The bloom has been off the rose for awhile, but now the Star Wars movies are just plain old movies like any other franchise. Worse yet, these newer movies have a higher chance of being bad than just any sci fi movie, and in fact Avengers has been better for a while. While Rogue One delivered, really the next best movie they’ve given us is the shaky (and now undermined) The Force Awakens, which is not quite as good as Phantom Menace.
And there’s no real need to go to crime ridden Orlando for the Theme Park til the price comes down either but that’s another post.
Donald Trump could have just stayed on TV as America’s nominally favorite nominally wealthy guy. It wasnt meant to be though. From the moment he won the election he’s taunted Congress and much of the American Public with non stop crass statements and ham-handed lawbreaking . Now what many called Inevitable has happened.
Speaker Nancy Pelosi was resolute about not impeaching Trump as recently as October. Then Trump’s attempt to cheat and gain politically in the next election by shaking down the Ukrainians came to light and everything changed.
The Democrats, for their part, were outright scared the president was trying to fix the next election and essentially become a Dictator. Nothing the president did made this seem any less likely. Blundering dismissive statements by the likes of Mick Mulvaney, Gordon Sondland and others amounted to admissions. In Sondlands case, he was seemingly looking to step back from the concussive wave of criminal charges.
Three Most Likely Next Steps
So here we are. The future seems to have three possible paths.
First, Pelosi can give Trump his wish and send the Articles of Impeachment to the Senate for a Reverse Drum-head Show Trial where he’s pre-certified Innocent along partisan lines. For a president who is only able to live in the moment immediate exoneration is a physical need. We all know it’s his preferred scenario.
The second option is Pelosi can take the legal route and return to letting the courts slowly but inevitably continue to rule unfavorably for the White House on who can and can not exercise Executive Privilege. This was taking forever, but mostly was wins for the Dems. It would probably drive Trump completely crazy. We all know he can’t hold his fire long or wait out a bad situation.
Then there’s Scenario Three; Negotiate a Better Trial in Senate
Pelosi could just hold onto the approved Articles of Impeachment and tighten up the case and negotiate for a better set of rules for the Senate trial. She has that right and wields the Speakers power well most times. This has the advantage of making Trump into his own worst enemy because the lack of a celebration of innocence and declaring Trump the victim in the Senate will drive the bloated Chief Executive absolutely crazy! We all know when Trump’s end comes his own actions will figure in greatly. Why not give him the chance to run his mouth? His clown Giuliani will chime right in.
When the two of them get going at the same time watch out!
Prediction – Pain
I think we’ll see a combination of scenario 2 and scenario 3. Pelosi will not immediately forward the Articles to the Senate. She’s going to hold off for a chance to have a say in how the Senate handles it and pick the best Impeachment Managers she can find.
While shes not doing that; there’s nothing stopping the Democrats from simply proceeding in court, where things haven’t gone all that bad.
The combination of No Exoneration and continuing legal setbacks could start a meltdown so profound Trump destroys himself. The same night he was Impeached Trump tried to appear unaffected and breezy, but as usual he couldn’t hold it together at all and resorted to a favorite tactic- attacking a deceased opponent.
In this case, he trashed the late Rep John Dingell (and his widow), of Michigan right on his home turf. For the first time ever there was a sort of mixed reaction when, at his hate rally, he went after Dingell’s wife and implied Dingell was in Hell. Once again another grieving family was fair game for the president, who just isn’t that stable and seems perpetually enraged. His only moments of happiness seem linked to low road behavior, like trashing dead people or War Heroes.
He could lose some more people and start to spin towards George W Bush approval ratings or worse. While the most deplorable 30% of Americans will run off a cliff with Trump no matter what, numbers matter. It’s going to be the other 70% who will get their way.
So while the Dem’s let Trump steep in his own juices for a bit, the very real possibility is he loses his mind and scares enough people to get Removed. The House could show some initiative by shuttle passing the Articles of Impeachment after a series of fresh bad revelations. Like some of his taxes getting out there or a new sexual attack accuser. This always triggers the president into a shameful meltdown across all media.
The worst day ever. A day where even Howard Stern went into News mode and stopped all on air humor. By 10 am the entire national character was changed forever.
The Donald’s Self Centered 9-11 Lies
What didn’t change that day was Donald Trump’s penchant for self centered grandiose lying. The buildings had just fallen when he started off a blue streak of horrible lies that continues to this day. The only person who had a 9-11 as emotionally fulfilling as Trump would be Osama bin-Laden.
And every 9-11 since Trump has refreshed and updated his lies. Always bigger than the previous years. The lies have really piled up. Eventually he presented himself falsely as prominently featuring in the recovery efforts by supplying labor and equipment. It’s untrue.
The fact is the president is simply plain old bad with serious things, especially death. Be it the death of a military hero, the death of a rival politician, the death of an average citizen, you name it. He’s made inappropriate comments about all of it. He always speaks horribly and never offers anything in the way of comfort (unless you count violent retribution).
Failing to show any compassion in the face of national tragedies has been Trump’s True North. Be it defending Nazis, disappearing completely when gun violence by angry right wingers unfolds, trashing the late John McCain or making grandiose false claims in the face of bigger tragedies, like the Hurricane that he won’t admit devastated Puerto Rico. Trump’s been a total bust in a role where the nation used to look to get a few sober words of encouragement from their leaders.
In New York Trump was already old news by 9-11 and no one was overly surprised he said outrageous hard to believe things. Mostly no one noticed because everyone except Trump and Giuliani were emotionally overwhelmed and not reading Page 6 to see Trump’s crazy claims. So some of his worst remarks were shot into the dark, luckily for him. But not all, some people noticed. Trump’s vulgar personality was well known.
The things Trump has done and said revolving around 9-11 have been just plain disgusting. He started off immediately, gloating THAT DAY. As the fire raged he falsely claimed he now had the biggest building in Manhattan. Later came the delusions that he saw people falling from the building from his vantage point 4 miles away. Most obnoxious of all was maybe the lie about seeing “thousands of arabs dancing on the rooftops celebrating” when the buildings fell. This last lie seems to have no bottom and lead to some deep lows through the campaign and beyond.
Shamelessly taking 150K in Federal Aid he probably didn’t deserve and definitely didn’t need was the first thing he did when the dust started to settle.
Needless to say there was no aspect of 9-11 Donald Trump didn’t personally appropriate. he was the biggest victim if he’s to be believed as far as personal loss goes. Notably saying “I lost hundreds of friends” on 9-11. It’s almost laughable if it wasn’t so serious. It would mean Trump knew about one out of every ten people who died in the Towers.
Does anyone believe he ever had hundreds of friends to begin with? How many friends do you have? How many of them work in the same quarter-mile area? Yeah it was downtown Manhattan, but being friends with ‘hundreds of people” in just the Towers? This is BEFORE Facebook changed the definition of friend. There was virtually no social media yet. So anyone having ‘hundreds of friends’ in 2001 seems a stretch anyway.
So the idea you could have “hundreds of friends” who died on 9-11? Is this even true of anyone outside say the pretzel vender who had the stand outside the buildings? That’s about like as likely as having both your children become left-handed starting pitchers for the Yankees the same season kind of a long shot. It’s a damned lie.
The biggest lies Trump has uncorked about 9-11 have mostly been about seeing completely imaginary “massive celebrations” of ‘arabs dancing in the streets and on the rooftops’ of Newark when the Towers fell. Sometimes he has claimed to have been in midtown when he saw it. we all know he cant remember anything and never stops lying. Sometimes he really screws his lies up. This is the claim that lead him to famously mock the disabled reporter who tried to clarify the tale, which was reported as an unverifiable rumor and NEVER involved ‘thousands’ of people.
It seems to never have happened. There’s never been any footage or pictures of it. It was just a random thing Trump happened to remember that was never really true. It was in with all the other misinformation like the car-bomb that wasn’t on the 59th Street Bridge or the pipe-bombs in the subway that were just abandoned suitcases. In other words; it was one of the misconceptions and wild rumors that flew around in the ether that day.
It’s a story only in the papers that were put together by dazed survivors who had been in proximity of the Attacks, later on 9-11 (as limited a run as those papers were). Facts were few and far between for about a week. New York papers did some of their best and worst work at the same time. It was followed up but the reporter could never verify it. There were rumors all over the place. This one ends up being the most toxic, but not for a really long time as Trump doesn’t recall or speak of it for 14 years.
Maybe the most notable thing about this racist lie, he’s first recorded uttering in 2015, is that its the first time we know of that he ever sees a large crowd that isn’t there.
Could these be some of the same imaginary people he saw at his inauguration? That particular shindig, which Trump’s lied non stop about, sometimes claiming it was “a million people”, had far less than a third as many people at it as President Obama turned out in 2009, where it really was close to TWO MILLION people on hand in the moment in DC. So it’s a notable first as far as outright hallucinations the ‘president’ occasionally has.
Back to Trump’s extraordinary claim. I personally refute it based on the fact I lived through the same events here in the New York City area and can tell you it absolutely would have ended in murder if you tried to be happy and start dancing the day 9-11 happened. It wouldn’t have been something only one person ever saw. The people who did something like that would have been jailed for inciting a riot the moment such behavior began if someone didn’t simply attack them first.
Anyone who had attempted to dance and celebrate on 9-11 would have been physically attacked, possibly killed (and the killers would have gotten Community Service) on 9-11. Where’s the police records? Where’s the Emergency Room records? Where are the court records for the crimes this would have sparked. Where’s even one other witness to this massive display?
The Bully in the Bully Pulpit resurrects this day far too often. And always for far too little. In this case it’s just his mean-spirited nature can’t miss a chance to attack a minority female and its wrapped up in 9-11 to disguise his attack. I feel like it comes off as part of his whole hatred of women and minorities more than anything else.
The day of 9-11 was horrifying and wouldn’t end. Only Trump found a way to celebrate that day. Trump knows an ignorant cottage industry sprung up around 9-11 and when he lies about it it’s just a mentally ill guy looking to create other mentally ill people to hang out with.
It’s strange that History will have no choice but to call Trump “a powerful, seductive voice” but it just will. He’s led Marine Generals and captains of Industry off of cliffs. And still they keep falling in line to fall of that cliff. It’s plain old hard to fathom how anyone finds him well spoken or compelling enough for the label to fit but it is what it is.
Trump Vs Omar& The Squad
Trump of late likes to take bigoted, racially tinged shots at prominent female freshman congressmembers. Rep Rashida Tlaib, Rep Ayanna Pressley and Rep Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (better known as #AOC), collectively known as The Squad are female Democratic Party progressives. Trump likes falsely alleging they’re radically, even violently UnAmerican. He’s railed that they ‘should go back where they came from” despite three of the four being born right here in America. Bizarrely, a lot of the attacks on The Squad revolve around 9-11.
The creation of an ‘enhanced’ out of context audio clip of Omar that the Trump people then manipulated was bad and dishonest enough without looping it and juxtaposing it with the worst moments of 9-11. Like 7 times in a row. Ihan Omar, elected from the sae state that gave us Michele Bachmann, is something of a poorly spoken novice as a freshman House of Representatives member from Minnesota.
To attack her over 9-11 when Trump himself is particularly dishonest about it was a bridge too far to start with for most of the American Public. Its also just a pretty flimsy pretext to send a message that’s straight out of the Third Reich as far as hatefulness. Way too eager to be a creep there.
When it comes to 9-11 I’m a lot less prone to be upset or offended by someone understating the whole thing than I would with a person who misappropriates it and co-opts it to advance their own egotistical designs.
So the real Trolls of 9-11 have always been Donald Trump and Ann Coulter, not necessarily in that order at any given time, but really, no one’s said anything that comes close to what these two have said.
Star Trek The Motion Picture, or Star Trek TMP, is the Phantom Menace of the Star Trek franchise. Featuring a bi-polar plot that never connects, it’s the feature film equivalent of a “Monster of the Week” style Trek TV episode.
The movie will be back in theaters for a bit this summer to celebrate the 40th Anniversary of its release. If you have a Roku or other device you can see the first three Star Trek movies for free uninterrupted right now using the DUSTx app/channel. So it seemed like a good time to rewatch and review them in order.
Star Trek roars into theaters for the first time on December 7, 1979 with a whimper in the form of this bad film redundantly named Star Trek The Motion Picture.
In a Nutshell
Its A Mess! This movie is just not that good!
The plot is a little complex and assumes full knowledge of the series. It was born and spent most of its life as a TV pilot. There was no “Un-TV-ing” the way its paced. It’s important to remember a switch is literally flipped when they realize its going to be a feature film. Then the TV pilot tries to be a movie and it’s at odds with itself. In essence it’s a miffed attempt to re-boot the TV series that ended up sucking up so much money they can’t just walk away; so it fails its way up to feature film.
We’d seen a very similar story before in the TV episode “The Changeling“, which is imaginative among episodes, but not a movie-building episode. I can only imagine they were going for something closer to what we get in the pilot for the Next Generation.
This supposed pilot had things it needed to do as a pilot. Re-Introducing the original characters and giving us some new characters through an interesting monster of the week two part episode with an emphasis on showing the ship and the gear and setting up future episodes was more important than making the single best episode of the series. So motivations aren’t really there to make a movie at all, or even a really good episode. There were people lined up around the block looking to write the new episodes too. We get the best ones later in the Next Generation.
In fits and starts some stuff was getting done, but it’s just not going anywhere. The plugs not pulled but things slow down while Paramount reconsiders. Things are up in the air.
Star Trek TMP was on its way to a similar fate as another failed Star Trek pilot “The Cage”. It’s tempting to the network, and Roddenberry could sell Star Trek, but sci fi is dead. So it kind of ended up in what they call “Development Hell.’
“Development Hell”, a term first popularized by Tim Burton, is what killed off his mediocre Superman movie but produces this bad Star Trek movie. It’s a term for a movie or show that’s got some elements in place, but not quite enough. Outright bad ideas don’t end up there, they die. On paper a Star Trek movie is actually a good idea, especially when the second release of Star Wars A New Hope is just vacuuming up money. And that outside development was the final thing that bought Star Trek back.
So basically it’s just pulled off the scrap heap and gets a pretty big injection of cash for cinematic special effects really late in the game. This is why some effects are much better than others.
In Real Estate terms, this wasn’t a complete teardown so much as an extensive refurbishment with a poorly planned addition.
The Really Expensive Pilot that Just Didn’t Work
This pilot had problems from the start. The biggest was Star Trek rip off, TV show Space:1999. The Star Trek people probably knew they had problems when they saw that there were a few too many similarities between their new production and this show.
I think the similarity the new Star Trek production’s look had to that of bad TV show SPACE:1999 cheapens their vision right in the moment. I’m sure it bothered the writers and creators, who immediately move on from this look.
The Space:1999 people seem to have blundered into this and the Star Trek people just found out too late. You can’t very well look like a bad TV show when you’re making the jump to film, but it was too late and unfixable. It also may have started people thinking these two shows on TV at the same time would be confusing.
Both Star Trek and Space:1999 showed a bad vision of the future.
Making a believable Sci-Fi movie is never easy to do anyway, but this movie fares worse than most. No expense was spared in creating a huge series of only okay sets that would have seen heavy use in a series. They saved what they could but most of it looked wrong.
It’s fair to call the uniforms and this movies Enterprise a dead end experiment. Sick Bay may have been an exception to an otherwise bland Enterprise, but the future has caught up and many of us have seen our CAT scans and MRI’s in real time on a big screen, so it’s a push there.
As I mentioned, it’s sort of a Star Trek tradition to have a pilot fail and then re-emerge in a slightly altered form. Similarly, this failed pilot is re-cut into a bad movie on the fly.
It was “throw this out there and get what we can or forget about Star Trek forever.” There was only one choice for the Star Trek people. They rebuilt the movie as best they could on the fly and prayed some heavy effects scenes would carry the movie.
They were pretty much wrong.
All this had actually sort of run out of gas maybe 6-18 months before Star Wars is released. When a lot of this work is being done there didn’t seem to be a huge interest in Science-Fiction. Then 1977 rolled around and Star Wars begins a Sci-Fi craze like never before. A bunch of franchises ride its coat tails into mainstream success.
Ironically, Paramount’s disdain for the project helps prolong it and ends up keeping the idea alive long enough. The movie does get made when things change and sci-fi is hot again (and forever) in the wake of the 1977 Star Wars movie, aka Episode 4.
If production hadn’t been so far behind we may have lost Star Trek forever. So it was a fluke this gets released. So we probably owe the continued existence of the Star Trek franchise itself to this reckless decision that pays off just enough.
Star Trek Stops Losing Money
So now the public is hungry for Sci-Fi and Paramount wants in. Looking around, the fastest path is a half finished Star Trek pilot on the ‘In Need of Help’ pile. It’s not that good, but hey, it’s almost done! It can be finished and in theaters pretty quickly.
There was also just a lot of Star Trek fans out there having conventions and buying lots of merchandise even after Star Wars. So there was demand and an audience for a Star Trek movie. It had become iconic in re-runs worldwide.
The decision was made. They would finish the pilot as a feature film. They throw another 15 million bucks, a fortune in 1979, into cinematic effects and do what they can with what they have. It’s about one third of the entire budget. It was a lot of cash, but it shows up after TMP is almost done.
Obviously, it was the right move. Per Wikipedia the movie takes in 139 Million Dollars off a budget of 46 million. So it brings back triple what they spent. Much more than it ever could have raked in as a TV show. Paramount had thought they’d get somewhat more, but the movie is far from a failure financially.
It was all found money for Paramount. They couldn’t have been happier. The only reviews that counted came from the people over at the Accounting Department! This passed over pilot had been really costly. And really slow. Now, the studios attitude towards Star Trek changed considerably. It was finally set up to make a profit.
Everyone’s pretty happy to have gotten off relatively lightly as the franchise moves to the Big Screen with a better sequel as top priority… just as soon as we get this turd out of the way.
This was never going to be all that good of a TV show anyway. We don’t know exactly when they made the decision to go from TV to intentionally mediocre movie, most sources say two thirds into filming, so a lot of the scenes remain very TV-like. They were writing as they were filming by the end. So things got frantic. It shows up most in the no pay-off, bad ending, written on the fly under a looming deadline.
The Biggest Problem
My Guess? At some point Gene Roddenberry has too much control and all the delays give him too much time to think and make bad decisions. Then they pulled away a lot of control with a deadline and some harsh takes on his results so far.
And times really changed in the roughly five years it takes from start to finish with this Star Trek project.
When things start out 2001 A Space Odyssey is the standard for big screen sci-fi. Before they’re done Star Trek’s original 1977 release had really, really changed things. Special Effects not the least.
V’ger ends up just a badly done alien by the time they are ready to release this movie. It’s also not any kind of real villain, despite its genocidal streak. They only got some of the pop they had hoped for from the Special Effects. The 1974 ideas may as well have been 1954 ideas after Star Wars hits theaters. They looked bad.
The One Good Hire
While much of what we see onscreen is sort of bad when you watch it now, they do start introducing some recurring themes and make a key hire. Composer Jerry Goldsmith, who did the music for the series and was in fact a very in demand movie score guy at that point, was bought on to handle the musical score.
They were smart and right on to get back Jerry Goldsmith to work on most of the music for this movie. Reunifying him with the franchise is maybe the most important thing this movie gets us. His contributions are not to be underestimated. We have the first ever attempt at the Next Generations theme used in the movie. We also get the Klingons now familiar theme song for the first time in the cold open.
The soundtrack, for the most part, is good. The Star Trek music is as good as the Bond Music as far as themes go. And on par with some Star Wars movies as well. It assures some continuity from the series to the movies mere atmospherics could never have accomplished.
There’s what’s called Leitmotif as well. All that means is some characters have their own theme music, just like in all John Williams scored movies. The evil cloud, for instance, is always accompanied by harsh synth music when it manifests its various guises. We get an Enterprise theme as well. It adds to the believability of all Star Trek movies.
The Controversial Firing
Whatever else he may have done, the one thing Gene Roddenberry had absolutely cemented in Paramounts minds was he was an idea guy and a TV Guy, NOT a Movie Guy. His Star Trek movie was not what they wanted and he had serious objections to the studios ideas. They also already had some problems with things he was saying about the sequel, which scare them even more about giving him control of the movies.
He was pushed out to a degree and his lack input to the movies (but perceived prowess on TV) gets us the amazing Next Generation. So in a way it all worked out. Gene Roddenberry later has similar issues with the Next Generation, but his somewhat untimely death resolves that.
The key decision that Star Trek didn’t always have to be profound is made. While its too late to lighten up this pretentious, self-important movie at all, it shows up in the sequels. Sort of like Pink Floyd when they part ways with Roger Waters. They wanted to be meaningful and artful, but they also weren’t always going to make some deep statement. It was freeing in both instances.
It was the right decision for Star Trek, where they immediately see how the wrong approach makes a movie fail in the way this one does. The tagline for this release is “The Human Adventure Has Just Begun.” Very 2001 A Space Odyssey-like. Pretty important sounding, for sure. It didn’t have any scenes that lived up to that tagline.
So now, sometimes we’re just gonna have fun in this ready made Galaxy. We might allude to something larger here and there in an observational way, but everything doesn’t have to be Asimov-level profound. Being meaningful was still out there, but profundity was not the number one goal anymore.
It worked. The 5 direct sequels are all better for these decisions, it was okay to be lighthearted and funny after this movie. In this movie there’s a total of one lighthearted scene courtesy of DeForest Kelley. The rest of the time the stakes are super high with a failed attempt at building tension and some conflict between Kirk and Decker.
It’s still essentially a TV script and its partly made when they switch gears. While that’s part of its appeal to the producers, it leads to some uneven pacing when the movie slows way down later.
We also get a couple of very doomed new characters leftover from the days of it being a pilot. They just don’t fit anymore, but they have key roles in the story and maybe some of the already filmed scenes. We can pretty much figure out what’s going to happen to them.
New character Captain Will Decker is the only qualified non dinosaur around, but he’s been quickly, curtly demoted and, shall we say, Red-Shirted. This was also going to happen if it stayed on TV. He was going to be Kirk’s Number One.
Then we have Captain Decker’s ex girlfriend, whose inexplicably verbal about being celibate. Welcome aboard Navigator Ilia, who I guess gets downgraded from TV cast member to “Hottie of the Week”. Her shaved head is less disturbing now then it was in 1979. Her other alien trait is a Russian Accent. Aside from showing up Chekov’s accent theres not much to say about her. They’re an early, underdeveloped version of Riker and Troi. So we’ve seen this done better too since this movie.
She’s not an effective alien even when she returns in ‘replicant’ form.
They never seem like they’re going to make it to the end of this movie. This isn’t helped by the fact the movie itself at one point seems it will never end!
It’s the first appearance of a Seventh Heaven cast member in creepy Stephen Collins, who was at least okay in his not so great role. His Seventh Heaven TV wife shows up in Star Trek IV as a Marine Biologist.
The Mediocre Movie, Act 1
As revealed later its 2 years since the Enterprise ended its 5 year mission, so 7 years from start of the Mission and our season one stories. Everyone looks pretty much the same. Its an evolutionary moment in the lifespan of William Shatner’s hair, he has a strange piece or weave, but the Shat is BACK and Kirk-er than ever!
The movie opens as the Anomalous Cloud later revealed as V’ger easily destroys three klingon warships in true 70’s sci-fi fashion. The primary weapon of the cloud is best described as ‘bad’ and has a pretty laughable effect when it actually destroys anything. The point is made though – don’t mess with the cloud.
Fortunately for the Klingons its just passing through their neck of the woods on its way right to the homeworld of the hated and annoying Federation. So they just leave it alone. In due course it consumes a Federation listening post at the edge of Klingon space.
With TV-like brevity we get a quick glimpse of Spock flunking his try at the Kolinar Emotional-Purging Ritual, which is presented as lengthy and difficult and shows a stressed Spock with long hair. Then, assuming full familiarity with the series we get a mind meld that we may not have really needed where we learn Spock is sensing V’ger. While it doesn’t add up that it’s being sensed by his human side (other humans don’t mention sensing it) we move on fast enough to forget this.
We then transition to an actually pretty cool looking Starfleet Headquarters and find out right away Starfleet Command is hyper focused on the Anomalous Cloud that defies all analysis. Chief of Starfleet Operations, Admiral Kirk, is point man on this one and he’s game, but he also has his own agenda- to be Captain of the Enterprise once more.
Admiral Kirk and Scotty, whose still chief engineer of the re-vamped Enterprise give us a real show of the ship as the move around in a shuttle to dock with the Enterprise, which is refit and now snow white.
At TV speed we find out Kirk’s far more taken with the idea he’s back in the Captain’s Chair than with the enormity of the impending encounter with the dangerous cloud. He’s James T Kirk, he does deals with this all the time.
The ultra clean Enterprise is going to become a constant in the series and on TV but we never see the Enterprise looking quite like this again. Its white and spotless. The main sensor array is just a glowing blue disk. There’s lots of humans hanging around it for scale reference and the movie ends up behaving more or less like a TV pilot.
In a TV Pilot-like manner Kirk busts Captain Decker down to “Executive Officer”. Decker takes this well enough, but he doesn’t mince words calling the Admiral a manipulative jerk. He’s right too. Who cares? This is a man whose father almost destroyed the Enterprise tangling with the Doomsday Machine in a great TV episode. Good command decision isn’t in his DNA anyway.
The Enterprise itself gets an almost character-like intro. The convenient reunification of the characters is amusing only with McCoy. You could be excused from missing Janis Rand completely. Shes one of the horrified transporter crew that melt a couple of crewmembers. It’s one of the few moments the movie has any emotion.
Minutes later Kirk’s pretty glib about the transporter as we get the aforementioned 2 amusing minutes courtesy of Dr McCoy, whose more than a little angry over having been drafted back into Star Fleet.
In short order we reassemble the most of the original crew plus some bland toss ins. We move via the Enterprise to intercept the Cloud, eventually to be known as V’Ger, which no one bothers to keep consistent in size. Best guess is its about the size of our solar system and is emanating enormous power readings.
We get what at this point is a brand new concept – the ships not quite finished and the crew is not that trained, but there’s a threat and its the only Federation ship in the area. This will get re-used a whole lot but this is its first invocation in the movies.
While en route to intercept the cloud Kirk pushes everyone too hard and the opportunity for another very 70s moment of special effects shows up in the form of a Worm Hole created by an imbalance in the warp engines. Then his mistakes is compounded by an asteroid pulled into the ships path. They have just a few seconds to figure it out. We get another very 70’s moment where time is passing slowly and everyones speech is slurred. Showing his ignorance of the new design Kirk orders a phaser blast while at warp and Decker saves the ship by countermanding Kirk’s order and using a photon torpedo instead. Brief tension ensues.
This is a deeply technical and not so good sequence that really hurts the movie. The effects are bad.
Then, the first cast member we saw briefly and then veered unevenly away from returns as a shuttle with Spock arrives to dock with the Enterprise. The whole desert emotion-purging thing has Spock acting like he’s abusing downers. He’s not going to reach his normal conversational level that quickly. He, like Kirk, has his own agenda anyway. The anomaly is what reached out and stirred his human emotions and ruined his training in the first place. He assumes science officer duties and for once Decker is happy to yield ground.
Kirk, Spock and McCoy are in place, so your pretty sure things are gonna be okay. Spock is somewhat ‘communing” with V’ger. He can’t elaborate on it just as the sensors can’t quite pin down the makeup of the cloud. It’s been done in a real “checking off the boxes for a TV pilot” way. You gotta imagine most of the effort was going to try to find an ending for this movie at this point as they rewrite on the fly.
We find the ship offline to a degree for a moment while Scotty applies Spock’s convenient software patch and fixes the warp engines. We’re off to meet the cloud.
When we finally get to the Anomaly, Kirk doesn’t probe it and leaves down the shields. He’s dead set on not triggering its defenses, which are as effective as they are silly. The shields hadn’t helped the Klingon’s, right?
Approaching the Anomaly we get some pretty state of the art attempts at effects for 1979, but they.re by no means astounding. There’s some great exteriors of the ship flying through the cloud. If you only like Enterprise-porn, where they just show off the ship, you’ll love this movie.
A game of cat and mouse ensures and the Enterprise is sort of engaged with V’ger, eventually entering the cloud and barely escaping destruction by persuading the entity at the heart of the cloud, that they’re not a threat moments before it would have atomized the ship.
The movie is now primarily trying to find it’s way to a few Star Trek moments and to feel cinematic after a lot of TV shooting and pacing. It really slows down in the final act. It feels uneven because it is.
At some point the Enterprise manages to end up inside the giant ship within the cloud and we find out the V’Ger entity has really been around. There’s a visual library of a very extensive journey.
A sensor wave from the cloud cuts through the bridge but seems to cause no damage. Then it fries the navigator, Ilia and with the sum of the ships computers knowledge it simply disappears.
Meanwhile there’s some form of communication coming from the cloud and the Enterprise finally picks it up. With some communications established we get a ride through the cloud.
Eventually we get our navigator back but now shes a scantily clad replicant-like emissary from the Anomaly, which finally announces itself as V’ger. She has little to offer about V’ger’s nature and is more about checking out the carbon based life forms the ‘infest’ the Enterprise.
Since they used to be lovers, Kirk has Decker hang out with the thing and show it around. It would seem it deeply affects him. Kirk’s pretty perplexed and the stakes are going up as they approach Earth.
Meanwhile Spock shows off what surely would have been heavily used gear in the show, a rocket powered spacesuit that’s pretty imaginative.
So anyway we have Spock outside his ship, which is inside another ship, attempting to penetrate further into the V’Ger entity to get some clues about just what this thing is. He finds enough to get overwhelmed and the 2001: A Space Odyssey is playing deeply in to the effects approach and it’s not unlike Bowman’s journey from The Discovery to meet god.
When we see Spock again hes drifting in fetal position towards a spacesuited Kirk in a possible heavy handed salute, or attempt to draw a little legitimacy from Kubrik’s movie. It isn’t all that bad, I suppose its a high point in the now slow moving movie.
V’ger attempts communication with Earth but gets no response and then, in a moment we see again soon in Moonraker, it starts to deploy killer satellites around the planet and gets ready to rid the planet of the Carbon based life forms (so humans and everything else). By doing this it hopes to contact it’s creator, whom its obsessed on.
Attempts at pop psychology and other justifications for the V’ger entities motivations and all of them are heavy handed and bad.
Kirk bluffs the Ilia Clone Probe thing and we all take a walk across the outside to the the heart of the V’ger entity, it’s mysterious origin and form soon to be revealed
Again leaving the ship but now just wearing some spiffy jackets and walking down the saucer section, V’ger is finally revealed for what it is- a lost 20th Century Space Probe FROM NASA back on EARTH!
Kirk removes 3 centuries of Space grit with his hands to show what whoever super-empowered this probe missed; the true name of V’ger is actually Voyager 6! All we need is the old NASA code and this baby will turn right off. The bridge crews right on it!
We quickly hear that Voyager 6, programmed to gather information and return to report it, fell into a Black Hole. Then, mostly because we’ve seen all this before in the episode “The Changeling” , the away team deftly auger that it must’ve emerged on the other side of the black hole and crashed onto a planet run by super intelligent machines. Imagine THAT happening TWICE? And much later it will happen again in another movie in this franchise. This plot device should be avoided forever more. 3 times is enough. Whiplash for even me at 9 seeing this. Seemed unfair to just throw a slightly higher budget twist on to one so-so episode as your movie.
Kirk reveals it to V’ger in true Shatnerian form; “V’ger, WE are the Creator”
This is a total let down to V’ger. It immediately becomes depressed.
Goodbye Inconvenient Characters
Ilia is now just a replicant and Decker has no role in this new dynamic. He decides he would love more than anything else to do a couple of screwdriver turns and key in the final command codes, confirming mission accomplished. Everyone has somehow figured out this is going to cause some sort of mergence between himself and V’ger. He has to do it manually because V’Ger itself burned out the leads to avoid admitting to itself the annoying carbon based life forms are its Creator.
So Decker keys in the codes and via really questionable effects we see Decker and Ilia merged.
The V’Ger entity is now a lot happier and a little more complete, so it seemingly goes unsaid it’s no longer a threat. No one bothers to ponder the idea this man made death machine has genocided its way across the Galaxy. And we never hear about this strange plot device again. This enormously powerful entity simply goes away and is never spoken of again.
In TV Style the movie wraps up with Kirk, Spock and McCoy pondering and exchanging verbal jabs on the bridge.
The acting in this movie exceeds what they had in the script. The cast comes off authentic. Everyone’s well prepared to reprise their character. The new cast members, well, we wont have to put up with them that long, but they’re okay.
And we found out that Star Trek could succeed without being profound, which was what this movie tries and fails to do. It was so bad that part gets lost in the many other criticisms.
We have Jerry Goldsmith onboard doing the music and we have the original crew well set up to do more movies. Thats all we get. ‘Star Trek’s back, but we’re gonna have to work on it a little more’ is the message here.
Some special effects are pretty cool. The musical score is mostly good.
Seems like with leaving almost all of this behind is the sort of thing we could have skipped, and we could have. Unlike Phantom Menace, which is about as bad, it serves no purpose in the continuity of the series. One of the best parts of this movie is you can easily skip it and still enjoy the other films. Almost nothing is the same when we get the next movie, Wrath of Khan.
In the end the best part is what didn’t happen. It didn’t become a pilot for what would probably have been a mediocre Star Trek show and we probably never get the excellent Next Generation at all.
Where do you start with a project so deeply flawed? At it’s worst moments this movie takes itself far too seriously and then makes a confusing glib turn. Its uneven and the pacing drops off once we encounter the V’ger cloud.
The new characters are bad and have the smell of red shirted death on them the whole time.
Long preposterous chunks of dialogue of Star Trek speak aren’t as prevalent as moments showing Kirk as unflappable and rigidly determined, but theres too much of both.
Rather than Majel Barret the ships computer has a harsh male voice, probably influenced by 2001’s male voiced HAL 9000. This is jarring and doesn’t work.
Most effects aren’t so great, some are distractingly bad. Plot-wise V’ger is just Moby Dick and the Death Star mixed together. The similarities to the episode The Changeling wouldn’t have been so bad if this had ended up a pilot.
The ‘save’ attempts are hit or miss. They never have cool uniforms. we see some updated phasers but there’s no action in this attempt at a cerebral movie. The movie’s makers realized the best case was for TMP to be kind of okay. When they try to make it seem like theyre being deeper and thoughtful they try to be Kubrik-like and it doesnt work in a big way.
The smaller, faster earlier scenes are at least brief. When we end up in the depths of V’ger the movie slows down and seeks some kind of direction and redemption. A real pay off is sort of not possible. The effects were good enough for 1979 but just barely and things that wouldnt have been quite as bad on 70’s TV are simply awful on the big screen or a modern HDTV.
This whole movie is bad. Its bad Star Trek, its bad TV and it’s a bad feature movie. It wasn’t well reviewed, though some notice was taken of some of the better special effects.
The look of this Enterprise is a one off. The outside is never this white again, going with a more believable bluish metal look. Inside maybe some of the Engine Room was reused but not much. It’s the hugest engineering section we see in this series.
Next journey, to do battle with Khan, we have a more Industrial ship and a more tactile looking, somewhat Star Wars influenced bridge that looks more functional and has some military-like sparseness. TMP’s bridge is more like the one JJ Abrams liked to show. Large, bright and with more crew than it would seem to need. It seems to have some Next Generation set elements in it. We know everything in Star Trek has several lives as a prop. Future bridges in this series are far darker and less populous.
This overall look for the Enterprise wasnt going to work and there’s a rare but huge fail on their uniforms and communicators too. Everyone looks like theyre in their pajamas.
By the next movie more military style uniforms simply work better.
Perhaps oddest of all, there’s NO BRIDGE AMBIENT SOUND. It takes a moment to realize it but then you really miss it. Here and there a button gets pushed and there’s a reactive sound, but aside that the technical background of ambient starship bridge noise isn’t there. We didn’t realize how much we count on this great foley art was to helping us to believe it all til it was absent. It definitely stands out when they talk on the bridge, undercutting the believability. It’s a weird omission.
The legacy of this movie was making just enough money to greenlight Wrath of Khan and all subsequent movies and shows. This could have been the end of the line without ever seeing the light of day. If anything demand was so high they could skate on a bad movie if there was a good one in the development pipeline!
Still, I was thrilled leaving the movie as a kid just because I’d seen my Trek hero’s again. I was really happy there would be more Star Trek in the future! But we all realized it was not a great movie, but in 1979 things were much different going to the movies. B movies were around, the level of bad was acceptable when you realize that it was so much cheaper to go to the movies then and you could still just laugh off the three to five bucks you paid.
Paramount’s enjoyed nearly pure profit considering they’d scrapped the pilot and still recovered anything! A lot of the money was spent years earlier and was considered lost at one point. They had turned chicken-shit into chicken soup.
They had finally recouped some money and Sci- Fi was hotter than one bad Star Trek movie could ruin, and so, with some serious strings attached, they greenlight another movie. On that point there first movie had sort of overperformed and revealed the fanbase had indeed grown. It wasn’t a blockbuster or that great, but in Hollywood money and making money is all its about. In a weird and circuitous way- Mission Accomplished.
So sit back, grab a strong drink and get through not so great Star Trek The Motion Picture. Or not. The next movie starts a story arc that ignores everything from this movie including Kirk being in command.
Star Trek The Motion Picture is the Phantom Menace of the franchise. Only the really strong story and box office success of the sequel justifies the existence of this movie. Basically for Paramount there was only interest in using House Money from this project to give a revamped Star Trek writing team, with a minimized role for Roddenberry, one more shot to succeed.
From this movie came the long enduring “Odd Numbered Movie Curse” peculiar to Star Trek where only even numbered sequels did well or were well reviewed. In the Abrams universe/ Kelvin Timeline its reversed. The odd numbered movies are better.
For that alone this bad movie is justified. But its really not that good.
Despite the glib charm of a sociopath Fred Cogan’s personality is that of a high handed jerk. He’s indiscreet and might just be banned from practicing in New Jersey. Personally I hope he reads this and tries to maybe change his ways (and takes a medical refresher course).
Here’s a review I found when i spent 2 hours creeping his internet footprint. It’s on Vitals.com It lines up with what most people say, like that he doesnt bother with stuff like keeping records or getting test results or even take blood. He’ll put you on cancer meds on a whim! This is rank incompetence and sheer greed. I consider him almost an accomplice to murder by this point. Guess its useful in litigation that by freewheeling it without testing people for anything by the time they figure it out )IF they figure it out) and he gets sued; the patients at Deaths Door from his Quackery and he has 7 years to delay court proceedings.
Over the course of my life I’ve seen him about 12 times in 3 different decades and I find him to be one of the most unprofessional doctors this side of a M*A*S*H* rerun. If he’s a character from that show he’s Frank Burns.
He thinks he’s Floral Parks answer to TV’s Doctor House, but is more ‘Dr Outhouse’ because he comes across like hes full of shit (he is). I wouldn’t send my worst enemy to him for as much as an aspirin. He’d misdiagnose a hangnail. The only thing he has in common with House might be that neither was a REAL doctor and both had legal issues in New Jersey. We don’t know, what the HELL he did wrong BEFORE the Internet. That’s probably the only reason he was able to move his medicine show from Jersey to New York and get away with it.
No Professional Accolades and a Hard to Fathom Move
So a man with no professional awards and no specialization suddenly is ambitious enough to take a whole new set of medical exams all over again in the neighboring state? Sounds like he lost his license to me. Yellowpages says “Speaks English” as his sole distinguishing trait. Not good. What did he do? Did he arrogantly fuck up and hurt someone? That’s what I think.
I have experienced firsthand and have suffered from his incompetence. How medicore is he? Well they dont give 2 point 2 Stars to just anyone, you gotta earn that kind of mediocrity. And surely one of the high ratings is from him and another from his SEO guy, so maybe he’s actually a 2 out of 5! Reviews of his work are few and far between. Seems his medical experience is about as current and useful as the art of making wooden barrels. So, almost nil.
His pathetic 3.7 of 5 stars rating on google should frighten ANYONE.
This is about the highest rating he has on any site. On Vitals.com he reviews at 3 of 5 stars. Thats only good for movie ratings. The math says hes just a hair below 50-50, which is bad odds to gamble on your life, he doesnt care though. Fred “Not So Great at Medicine” is incompetent or lazy and greedy. He not test for problems, avoids sending samples to labs to lazily avoid paper work and just wings it. Theres no way he hores staff that are qualified, hes cheap as a seersucker suit from the Salvation army.
Fred is a not a doctor from another time. His knowledge is so out of date its from when Barbers gave medical treatment. I didn’t notice a jar of leeches, but it fits with his out of it and foolish ideas.
So he and an employee seem to be the only people whose opinions made it on most websites.
The comments are, and he paid for them if you ask me – “He has great bedside manner”? I laughed when i read that, I think he wrote that one himself because he has no beds and no manners. Just tables and a God Complex. Right out of Marketing 101, promote yourself by calling your flaws strengths. Its just not true.
He’s more a businessman than a doctor. Thinking Patient or Visitor are his only titles in ANY hospital. Could every hospital be wrong? Or is it simply just too risky to allow his total shitshow in there? And why did he need to move to the Middle East to go to a little known medical school? No one in the US, Canada or Grenada would have him?
All rating sites combined have a total of about 2 dozen reviews TOTAL. And one of each of them (at least) were surely written by him.
These are my opinions, experiences and feelings about a guy holding many lives in his hands. Some of them are my friends. You deserve better. I’ve also compiled what little there is on the internet, none of which is that impressive and all of which is suspect and possibly scrubbed. If you didn’t vote for Hillary over her missing Emails why would you go to a doctor whose apparently lost HALF HIS CAREER?? Isn’t that allegedly a sign of incompetence? And he’s the guy checking out YOUR HEART! Something he DOESN’T even have?
When you Google around searching for information the only thing you find out is he’s pretty much ghosted his professional life from the internet. That’s a tough and pricey thing to do. It would show he knows he is pretty incompetent, but he likes your money too much to become a mere pharmacist. He’s intellectually vain. He’s not open and transparent thats for sure. I don’t think he has a conscience.
0 out of 5 stars on Yellowpages website
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Arrogant, Mysterious and Indiscreet
This arrogant guy should not be a doctor. Or even a vet.
He acts more like an angry school teacher most of the time. I’m still reeling over the fact a doctor would call a patient “A Dismal Character” because they needed prescriptions refilled that he never bothered checking out. That was his opening line. Was it because he already knew I wouldn’t be coming back and was pissed? Who knows? The guys got a bad temper.
I had a common problem. I was looking to change shrinks, it was sort of time consuming. So I was down to like 2 days of meds and going there seemed expedient. “At least I’ll have a month to find a new doctor,” I thought. I was already less than a fan but I figured an honest appeal to his professionalism and compassion would get me the medicines I had been on for a couple of years til I found a new shrink. Wow, was I ever wrong! He possesses no professionalism and has as much compassion as a robot.
The Childish Meltdown and Lies
He was horrible to me and made sure to tell his whole waiting room of my friends and neighbors what I needed and grandstand about what he would and wouldn’t give me, making sure to BLURT OUT ALL SPECIFICS in his very public waiting room. The 20 some odd people in there looked at me like I was scum, but one person got up and left, presumably shaken and maybe afraid of what “Doctor” Cogan would do to him when his turn came. He was the smartest person in that room that day.
3.2 of 5 stars from about a dozen reviews in 46 years is the best he could do
The evidence is right there in his horrific demeanor. So maybe you think this is personal? No, but it is based on personal experiences. Besides, I feel guilty letting others be mislead by a guy who I feel only cares about his wallet and is, in my opinion nothing but a huge charlatan. Throw in a penchant to yell and a loud speaking voice and its just toxic to be around him.
I pity his staff. He was brisk and brittle to them too. At least they got paid for it.
Zero Stars and unreviewed in the 15 year history of Yelp. Did he pay to get rid of the bad reviews?
The lack of information online, and the fact he seems to have PAID a Search Engine Optimization guy to cover his tracks from 1974 til now on the internet seems to be damning enough. Compassionless and indiscreet, he will blab about your prescriptions and condition in a waiting room full of your neighbors. He enjoys it. He’s an actor more than anything else, and a bad and dangerous one at that; faking it every minute while he gets richer.
Seems since 1974 he’s received NO MEDICAL AWARDS, and NO recognition of any kind he can put on the internet. I think he’s on the Floral Park Chamber of Commerce, so he probably has “Best Doctor At 176 Tulip Avenue” on a plaque. That’s about as much as he deserves.
The internet wasn’t around yet, so he got away with it longer than he should have. There’s lots of questions but very few answers.
Everyone Will Know Why You’re There
Like I said, last time I went to see him I just had no choice. As I awaited him he loudly spoke to a woman I know just feet away about serious issues. As usual he just wasn’t sure what was wrong with her even after the many visits he mentioned, but he still enjoyed telling her bad news loudly. Through the half open door I could SEE THEM looking at images in his idiotically public x-ray viewer. They were too shocked and upset to notice, but I was mortified for them. A bad feeling set in.
Every time I saw her after I want to tell her but Im not her doctor and it would seriously upset anyone. It shouldn’t have happened in the first place! I haven’t seen her in a long time now, who knows where his incompetence landed her. The poor woman could well be dead from his lack of integrity.
I watched them, mystified, as he ‘interpreted” her chest X-Rays! It was so avoidable an error. Had he thought through ANY of his methods? Had he even bothered letting a radiologist look or was he freelancing? He was baffled; so I guess the second. She was in tears and just needed better care. Fred didn’t even consider that option.
Fred doesn’t suffer from the Dunning-Kruger Effect. He knows he’s mediocre and just doesn’t care. Her boyfriend, who I went to HIgh School with, was there trying to do the right thing comforting her and I don’t think they appreciate what I overheard. How do I tell them? It was just WRONG.
Simply put Cogan was raking in more and more cash from his own incompetence! He didn’t recommend a specialist, for a LUNG PROBLEM and just set her up for another appointment. CHA-CHING! Hey if she gets better or goes to a better doctor he loses money, right? So he was out of his league and couldn’t help, but he seemed like he was motivated to keep getting paid. So much for “Do No Harm.” Thanks for the moral dilemma, Fred.
Funny how it doesn’t bother him that he’s doing things so unprofessionally when even I know better, and I’m a mere college grad, he’s DOCTOR! Or at least he’s a doctor in New York, and maybe the Golan Heights. I’m thinking he may be forbidden from touching ANYONE in New Jersey due to botching a boob job or cutting off the wrong leg. Or his terrible temper, or his general lack of any skill.
What Happened in his Hidden Wasted Years?
What did he do for 25 years that landed him in another state starting over about a quarter century after Med School? It’s not like he moved to California for the weather. He stayed close to New Jersey. It seems he couldn’t just move to the next town in that state. He instead opted for a long commute, through and past New York City and all that traffic, to the most western town on Long Island. To a town with plenty of doctors already. Floral Park was probably the closest place he could go to start over. It seems really odd, but he’s not saying why.
As I’ve said, I think he HAD to LEAVE New Jersey because he was just incompetent and got in trouble. So he’s is playing the citizens of Floral Park for suckers. He’s also playing god. He likes doing both.
If I’m wrong he could always respond. Or list his credentials in the town paper. I doubt he’d need much Ad Space to cover his accomplishments.
A Public Shaming Rather than Compassion and Treatment
When it was my turn to face his ‘selection process’ or whatever you call the insane nazi-like way he acted towards me, he came in like he was shot out of a cannon and almost foaming at the mouth. Was he drunk or high from a little snack from his small fridge of drugs?
Never dropping below a blistering shout he admonished me for having come to him at all and described me in cruel, demeaning terms because I take some psych meds. So he’s a believer in Eugenics on that count. He was shouting and it escalated as he fed off his own preposterus indignance. At this point I ready to be examined and couldn’t simply leave, it was a clever angle of attack. An attack he ENJOYED. I was near naked and cornered. It was AWFUL!
I told him to shove his character assessment up his ass as he doesn’t have a psych degree and asked to return to the matter at hand- I had no doctor and needed my meds or I’d end up in a hospital ER from the physical effects of a cold turkey withdrawal. It was dangerous and bad for me, the supposed patient. He was an ass about the whole thing and was surely getting off on the scene he was acting out (like I said he thinks he’s a TV doctor). He was more than happy to expose me to danger. He seemed to enjoy that too, He’s a judgmental prick. Great trait for a “Healer”. In keeping with the spirit of Josef Mengele! I dont think even lowly unknown Middle Eastern Med Schools would countenance that. So hes worse than a rookie with no experience.
He couldn’t have cared less about my medical problem and was biased against people who need psych meds.. He just kept preaching in a vacuum of facts, spitballing hateful opinions of a non medical nature about me.
He shouted out he considered my visit there as an attempt at seeking drugs. Is there even a black market for Latuda? So I said “Fuck you” got dressed and went to take care of the bill, which is to say I was informing the secretary that I’d received NO treatment and requested my records (he never sent them). Thankfully I wasn’t yet out of meds and was able to not punch him in the face like I would have if someone attacked me verbally on the street. Hes a cowardly bully.
Not getting paid for 2 minutes of verbally abusing me might have set him off. Guys all about money. He flipped out. His already bad behavior deteriorated into a screaming fit. I was walking away pulling on my shirt. He stepped right into the lobby and began his unseemly soliloquy.
He again assaulted me verbally, but now publicly. It was humiliating. He enjoyed playing to the audience. He took pleasure in belittling me. When I told him “Hey, not in here:” he looked shocked and I guess already knew how unethical he was acting, he just likes to belittle people. His secretary looked up momentarily with a sad look of sheer embarrassment. She’d surely seen this before.”Its fine” Cogan knowingly lied to the gaping crowd more than me. “It’s not fine, in fact it;s probably illegal” were the last words I said as I walked out of his little death camp of an office. “Dick!” I seethed as I walked to my car.
That’s right, I went for help and he insulted me and belittled me and yelled my diagnosis out loud, complete with details and medicines, in his waiting room. Unethical at best. Half those people knew me. He’s a creep. I barely maintained my composure. I was already in a bad place. He just needed to yell at someone. Is he a drunk? He’s got enough anger.
An hour later a different local doctor handed me the scripts with compassion and I sure wish I’d gone there first. He may have saved my life, he definitely spared me a trip to the ER or worse.
Almost Absent from the Internet in 2019 -So Whats He Hiding?
This guy has worked harder to stay off the internet than he ever did at that Middle Eastern medical school. Theres only nefarious, vague stuff. I have bigger internet footprint. He’s hiding something pretty bad is what it seems like.
One thing i Found was “No Malpractice Suits IN NEW YORK”. First of all what does “No Malpractice Suits in New York” mean? It didnt say “No Mlpractice suits” so he’s probably just settled out of court, or more likely, conned the person til they died.
As we all now finally know; after being a doctor from the early 70s he just materializes in Floral Park a quarter century later? With no internet yet he must have laughed his ass off at the new set of rubes he would con.
I’m betting he has a few legal and professional problems back home in Jersey. When he showed up in New York and even up til now he has no track record he’s willing to show. Sure looks like he fucked someone up in a different state. Here’s the link to his 2 sentence bio.
Or – read it here – Dr. Fredric Cogan, MD is a family medicine specialist in Floral Park, NY and has been practicing for 45 years. He graduated from Sackler School Of Medicine, Tel Aviv University in 1974 and specializes in family medicine.
Two sentences is all he’s got? He’s at it almost a half century and it boils down to 2 sentences? One of which is simply his location? Not good.
SO WHATS HE HIDING?
If you can figure this out tell me, here’s all i don’t know –
IS HE THE SAME DR COGAN WHO CANT WORK IN HIS HOME STATE OF NEW JERSEY?
WHY DID HE HAVE TO GO TO MEDICAL SCHOOL IN THE MIDDLE EAST?
IS HE JUST A FAILED PLASTIC SURGEON?
IS HE ALSO BANNED FROM ISRAEL WHERE HE GOT HIS START?
IS HE THE SAME FRED COGAN WHO HAS NO HOSPITAL WILLING TO LET HIM BE AN AFFILIATE?
He has all of 12 reviews on that Yellowpages site and barely breaks even. He’s a hair away from being rated bad because the truth is he’s mediocre. And I’m pretty sure he wrote one review himself and probably hired someone to write at least one more. Without that he could be like 2.5 out of 5. Are you okay with that? If so, put me in your will. I like money too.
Remember- he started in 1974 but has apparently never done anything to distinguish himself and earned DISMAL RATINGS! (you see what i did there?)
His reputation is subpar and his specialty? He has NONE. FAMILY PRACTICE is all he admits too. What specialty did he fail at? Or was it a character issue? Was he a pill pusher in the day and thats why hes so angry when people need medicine? Hes just angrily thinking of the money hes losing because he’s a greedy dick.
It’s odd. Most guys eventually get good at something they can put on their sign. One site describes his specialty as “General.” Meanwhile he can’t diagnose worth a shit, so why even bother?
Your family doctor is essentially supposed to be able to figure out whats wrong with you quick and if he can’t help you send you to someone who can. So he’s 0 for 2 in the only 2 things you need your General Practitioner to be good at. Just using the internet is probably about as good, and you can also find REAL doctors with real bios on it. Fred’s got only a one sentence description. Part of that sentence is simply stating the year he graduated. What was he? A phrenologist?
I think he’s a quack. One mans opinion. Go ahead, search the internet and if you find any answers I’ll amend this post.
You Wouldn’t Take This From Your Mechanic, Why’s a Doctor Any Different?
Would you hire a roofer or mechanic to do any job if he’d been at it for 50 years but has no details, no testimonials, but says ‘hey trust me?’ Of course not.
This isn’t your replaceable house or your car, IT’S YOUR ONE AND ONLY LIFE AND THE LIVES OF YOUR LOVED ONES. What is it he won’t let us know? For all we know he killed someone or messed up someone in whatever his ‘specialty’ once was. Who practices anything for 50 years and has no accolades? Even chiropractor Dr Ruppolo on Tulip ave once consulted with NASA! And hes not actually a medical doctor! so whats up with Fred?
Is he just a failed plastic surgeon who disfigured someone? Did he get caught at work drunk? He’s got a 25 year gap in his career. He’s invited speculation.
On one site there’s all of maybe 4 testimonials, two apparently written by him because both revues are 5 stars when he pulls between zero and 3&1/2 of 5 stars everywhere else. He still had a low rating is spite of this. It’s not a representative sample and they shouldn’t have rated him at all based on less then a half dozen opinions total since 1974!!!
“Drop-Dead Fred” Cogan has kept most of the key information about his professional life off the internet. No small feat in 2019. Seems like he paid an SEO expert and a lawyer to sanitize his internet footprint, which is so small you can read it all in 4 minutes.
You gotta wonder why. I think its cause his past performances have gotten him in trouble. If he disagrees he can write to me here and I’ll be happy to listen, but he probably won’t because he really is an just arrogant guy.
Why the ghosting? Is he just afraid if we’re already on the internet to book an appointment his shady reputation will be right out there and people will rightly move on? I think so. Simpest answer is – he’s hiding something and rightfully ashamed he couldnt get into an American (ot maybe even Canadian) Med School. I bet he graduated low in his class.
As good a Doctor as Howard the Duck is a movie
Poorly Rated and Has Scrubbed the Internet
He’ll let you get sicker and if you die he’ll sleep like a baby. He once blamed ME for the disease he, shocker, couldn’t pin down. Turns out one glimpse at my blood through a microscope revealed the problem IMMEDIATELY. So thorough is NOT in his lexicon. I already found him lacking as a human being and a doctor, but I needed my meds. I was on these medications for years and they were triple prescribed in the sense every REAL doctor was all for the course of treatment. But this guys not a REAL doctor. Real Doctors are discreet and caring.
He’s an internet mystery in the Digital Age. Im not sure who he even is he’s covered his tracks covered so well. How does this guy even have patients with no internet footprint? I think it’s simply LOCATION, LOCATION, LOCATION! And why doesnt anyone google this guy before going there? He’d be making people sicker in Maryland or something by now if they did!
The little you find on the internet about Fred is not good. Were I him I’d be all over the internet setting people straight with a rebuttal. He’s not. Could it be because calling him a bad doctor has already held up to legal scrutiny? There’s probably court papers somewhere (in New Jersey) certifying he’s a bad doctor in so many words and he CAN’T answer the charges or change the verdict.
If he’s never done an internet search on himself, wouldn’t that alone be sort of reckless and dumb? Thats plain old bad judgement. FROM A DOCTOR! These are 2 traits that fit well with the guy who mistreated and admonished me from his high horse like an asshole.
I would think he would address these issues if he could, so the fact he hasn’t may mean he can’t. If theres another Dr Fred Cogan ruining his rep you’d think he’d try to establish an online rebuttal where he shows his pelts and degrees. If it exists anywhere I couldn’t find it.
So youre relationship starts off with a lie. How’s that usually work out? You’d walk out on your Tinder date for this kind of deception, why take it from him?
I think he’ll shorten your life and just blame you. He’s a self important prima donna. Is he just overcompensating because he doesn’t know what he’s talking about? Were his parents just failures who raised a jerk? Wheres his credentials? Of course he’s got a great lobby, he has to take your mind off the things that aren’t on his wall. Things like Diplomas and certifications. Last time I was there he was in Floral Park like 20 years and still hadn’t got around to it. Could it be because he never earned a prestigious degree and is hiding how unqualified he is? The only case for going to him is if you judge doctors by the magazines in their waiting rooms. That’s his strongest area. Seriously.
HIs bio leaves simply omits what he did for the first 25 years of his career, about half. Nothing between 1974 until he pops up in New York in the 90s can be found. Did he just blow off 25 years of his career as unpostable? Ask him, see what he says.
When I asked where he went to medical school he just said he was very backed up and changed the subject. He’s evasive. So the question is WHY?
If you need a compassionate doctor, look elsewhere.
STAY AWAY! HE’S COMPLETELY INDSCREET IN HIS OFFICE. I WONDER WHAT HE’D SAY WHEN HE”S OUT HAVING A BEER ?! I’d go to a Voodoo Witch Doctor before him!
This is the only thing the internet verifies – his address, a former porno movie studio, once occupied by a therapist who went to jail. I consider it an ongoing crime scene. It certainly isn’t a very lucky place historically.
As for Cogan? He’s out of step, slow to comprehend and is hostage to his narrow-minded ways. He probably has leeches somewhere and I wouldn’t be surprised to hear him say that someones medical problems were that their bodily humors were out of balance. He would have been perfect around 1860.
Do you want a doctor whose just bad at analyzing medical information? Do you? Do you really? Well then go to Fred.
He lacks the compassion a good doctor needs and his knowledge is more outdated every year. As he approaches retirement he probably cares less than ever. If the internet was around in 1974 I bet he’d be a Dog Catcher at best by now.
So thats my personal experiences and opinion of this ‘doctor’. Lets him sue WordPress and see if he gets anywhere. Barry School of Law wasn’t able to pull down the truth i posted about them, and they’re a law school with nothing BUT attorneys. He wont be able to silence me either either.
This is still America, I have the right to tell the truth just as Freddie Kruger Cogan has the right try to scrub what he can off the the internet. This post is not going away.
He looks like a duck, walks like a duck and quacks like a duck so I’ll just say it- All signs are he sucks at his job. He’s just too self important to quit. He’s a Quack.
Were he to become an insult comedian he certainly has the skills.
He’s Don Rickles in a lab coat as far as I’m concerned.
Go elsewhere, the life you save will be your own.
What’s great is I think we have the same lawyer so if he comes after me it’s the B Team for him up against me and the 1st Amendment. I won’t need counsel to destroy any legal attempt to smother the truth. And then I’ll sue his ass for Unjust Persecution and win acting as my own lawyer. He’ll probably act out on court and hand me an easy win. Lawyers tend to hate doctors anyway. So I’m just not concerned.
Theodor Morell was more qualified and less abusive, whats that say?
There’s this theory I have. It’s not that crazy. It’s got the benefit of holding up to some analysis. I think Trump is perpetually sleep deprived. He’s got that reservoir of anger, he seems easily confused and makes mistakes in basic knowledge that 5th graders know. Like that the Moon isn’t part of Mars.
I don’t believe Trump really thinks the moon is part of Mars, I think it’s a Tell. It’s the lazy mistake of a fatigued mind that’s just not at 100 percent, ever.
What the president was possibly alluding to is some ideas for a Mars mission involve slingshotting around the moon to build momentum. In some harder to fathom plans the moon would possibly be the launch point so the rocket wouldn’t have to use any fuel escaping the Earth’s gravity. NASA probably told him about this but he was half awake when he heard it. So we get a mangled tweet about the moon and Mars being the same thing.
Lots of easily google-able tests have universally shown if you just don’t sleep at all you’ll have some kind of medical emergency within a few weeks and die. It’s common knowledge, it doesn’t need citation.
So clearly Trump ‘rests’ in some way. I’m not suggesting that he hangs upside down from the rafters with his wings folded, but its not quite ‘sleep’ either.
Here’s the Theory –
It’s Not Quite Sleep
It’s not that Trump doesn’t have times when he’s not really awake, it’s more that he’s only sort of sleeping. It’s always in small amounts after being awake for too long.
Trump doesn’t fall asleep and wake up like a normal person. In fact I think he’s like 2 days of sleep behind all the time. This would explain his constant confusion and brittle disposition. He can’t ‘sleep’, he only passes out from being awake too long for say 4 hours about every 20 to 30 hours. 12 Diet Cokes a day will do that to you.
So in a nutshell; my theory is he passes out from sheer exhaustion (and a caffeine crash) after 20 to 30 hours of ‘wakefulness.” Of course the TV is on the whole time.
Less than 5 hours later he snaps to consciousness (as opposed to waking up) in a cold sweat screaming the moment his body has been in stasis long enough for his mind to start to panic again. Then he ‘Get’s Up’ and starts the cycle again. He’s never anything but overtired, grumpy and scared. By most accounts he rarely eats breakfast. Only the most important meal. So mental acuity is all sorts of in question from this lifestyle.
Much of the time he’s not really awake, just in a torpor half out of it half watching Fox News Opinion shows that tell him he’s great. This is so his ego never has to stop grazing. That’s “Executive Time”. The president half snoring from being so heavy. His eyelids are mere slits, drooling with the TV remote in one hand, cellphone in the other. At least its some form of rest.
Throw in the fact he’s pretty old, pretty fat and those things affect your sleep and sleep patterns. Sleep apnea may figure in too. Its a sure thing there’s more than one or two contributing factors as to why the guy has sleep problems.
For one thing, he knows he’s a horrible person and the guilt and shame must show up sometime. It part of why he famously wont read. Reading involves quieting your mind, something a horrible person just cant do.
What Happens When People Are Overtired?
From experience I can say you sometimes get a rush of creativity in that second wind you get right before the wind gets knocked out of your sails for good. I think it’s probably safe to say that it only last just so long and you don’t know when it’s gonna happen. It would however, explain why Trump occasionally is sort of able to crack a joke and be glib and pith-y. It also explains some of the times he’s been creatively very mean in interviews or on the stump.
So outside my personal experience I of course checked Wikipedia and looked at the results of being overtired and bounced them off what we see of Trump.
A chronic sleep-restricted state can cause fatigue, daytime sleepiness, clumsiness and increased appetite leading to weight gain. It adversely affects the brain and cognitive function. However, in a subset of cases sleep deprivation can, paradoxically, lead to increased energy and alertness and enhanced mood; although its long-term consequences have never been evaluated, it has even been used as a treatment for depression
Well let’s see. We have clumsiness pretty well documented and increased appetite seems a sure thing for a man that big. As I mentioned in my own experiences there’s that weird little high you get where you end up with an elevated mood for a while. It’s akin to smoking pot. And the last sentence, about it dubious use to treat depression, would seem to indicate you get manic. Sounds pretty Trump-like!
Adverse brain and cognitive functions? Always on full display. Trump’s a text book case. Don’t believe me? Look at the time stamps on some of these tweets going back as far as you like. He’ll blast something out at 4am.
Other Effects include “Selective Attention”. We can just leave that right there. Theres so many accounts of the president only hearing what he wants to hear.
Executive Function? This one takes some explaining, but once you get it a lot of things start to make sense about Trump, again, from wikipedia –
Researchers believe that three of the most ‘basic’ executive functions are: shifting, updating, and inhibition. Shifting back and forth between different tasks is considered a very important mental behavior involved in executive functioning as it involves active disengagement from the present task and engaging in a new task. Updating is believed to be involved in working memory (closely associated with the function of the prefrontal cortex), where the information that is active needs to be updated by replacing old, now irrelevant information with new, relevant information based on the objective. Inhibition involves controlled and deliberate impedance of automatic, predominant responses.
The anterior cingulate cortex has been implemented in the process of inhibiting a habitual response or detecting possible conflicts in responses; this is shown by the Stroop test. Studies have found that as little as 36 hours of sleep deprivation cause a performance reduction in tasks requiring these executive functions.
Well, thats a lot to take in but essentially the sleep deprived person becomes less and less able to do 2 things at once or to do one thing and then something different immediately after. Examples would range from not being able to pick anything off a menu (so only having burnt steak with ketchup or McDonalds) to greeting more than a couple of people. No wonder Trump is always inappropriate. The guys just trying to remember if you eat salad with a spoon or a fork and can’t discern the president of China from the president of Japan! If he mets them too close together or at once it will overwhelm him. His cognitive abilities just aren’t up to it.
Lastly, just from these excerpts, the science says he’s also inhibited in “Conflict Avoidance”. Easy to believe. Pick any of the poorly chosen battles the presidents engaged in and there’s proof that’s going on too.
There’s so much more but this post has made enough points. Besides, others have wondered and written about it as well.
In February Business Insider looked at the presidents sleep schedule and found cause for concern, writing – It’s not clear whether or not Trump is part of the 1% of the population that appears to actually need less sleep, scientifically speaking. If he is not, Trump is severely sleep deprived, according to health professionals that generally recommend seven to eight hours of sleep.
So there it is. The president is a stranger to Circadian Rhythm and is cognitively impaired from it. And he has control of the worlds largest nuclear arsenal.
The only good news is if you hate the guy he’s on the threshold of all sorts of health problems. Like maybe a heart attack or stroke, especially with a famously horrible diet and being way overweight.
UPDATED – One thing we can be sure of in the 4 awful years since Trump announced his candidacy – the guy hates work.
It’s beyond obvious he’s delegated (through inaction) all responsibilities to the least qualified and most inept people to handle any given thing. That’s how you get so many failed ideas on things like the Southern Border and the infamous, repeated ‘INFRASTRUCTURE WEEK’ Meltdowns.
During the campaign he was able to show up for a lot of rallies and puff out a lot of anger and it sort of looked like he was able to work. But it turns out boasting in front of an all white crowd of angry, intolerant people is actually Trump’s preferred form of recreation. So let’s not call campaigning “Work”.
He despises work and you can tell. When forced to go through the motions he’s always visibly bored or angry.
He came prepared with a host of methods to avoid doing his job, but now this is the White House and the schemes to avoid work become obvious.
Essentially, Trump’s faking it. It’s not like he’s all that good at it, but he doesn’t really care how it plays. Laziness is at the core of the “Trump Leadership Style”, if you can call it that.
Let’s look at a few of his “Go-To” ways to dodge things; like reading (CAN he read?) or working in any way.
A Major Announcement is Coming…
There’s a MAJOR policy announcement coming on whatever he’s been asked about; and really any and all topics. When? In about 2 weeks. It never ends up happening.
As the president has stonewalled off all transparency and minimized his exposure to the press there’s been no way to really follow this up.
Busy Looking Meetings and Confusing Outright Lies
The president likes to look like a work-a-holic who also has the time to develop and keep a very deep tan. These two at odds traits make it hard to look all that busy, but he goes through the motions anyway.
The meetings traditionally have gone one of two ways. Either the president will sit back and drinks in praise from whoever he’s invited to a meeting, and it could be anyone, from Mitch McConnell to Kanye. It looks so Banana Republic because it is.
Another track these meetings and brief press availabilities often go is that Trump will take exception to a question and have a tantrum. But he’s standing in front of his helicopter so he has sort of an excuse to shout. Its when I feel he looks most like a dictator. No helicopter needs that long to warm up! See “Showing off his toys” later on in this post.
When forced to work he hates it and it shows. The busy looking moments come with a price. He usually undermines whatever he did musing on Twitter later the same day.
G7 Work Slowdown
More recently he managed to get in some busy looking moments in scattered attendance at meetings while lying about skipping a few of them, tomake up for this he went on a spate of lies throughout the conference, where people say he was an adverserial jerk. He didnt understand what was going on so he either co-opted, tuned out or skipped a few conferences because he just doesnt want to work.
Soon after we got more work avoidance of a slightly different nature related to ‘kicking the can: for two weeks’ thing. Its designed to stave off critical questions or things he just dosn’t know. This would be lying about getting a couple of calls from the Chinese and how they were going to cave to him in his preposterous trade war, which in itself is a work-avoidance scam. Of course, as the Chinese let us know, it never happened.
The G7 is where he dropped some a couple of weird statements and tweets and the lightened schedule of meetings still took its toll on him. He rambled incoherently at times. The bizarre statement that his wife had gotten to know Kim Jung-Un somehow was just weird. For the record theyve never met. The bottom line is he probably doesnt remember they never met because he cant remember much in general. Like for instance what a Category 5 Hurricane is, even the fifth time around since he took office.
Either way the meeting gets on TV and the Dear Leader looks busy. And again, he just doesn’t care how bad it looks. He leaves any meeting of world leaders with a flurry of erratic tweets. Just to look busy.
Create A Crisis
Instead of getting down to the brass tacks of Trade or Infrastructure the president will start tweeting something crazy and draconian that he may or may not do. Insulting a world leader, screaming about a perceived Trade Injustice or just attacking some random person are all possible when he goes this route.
We just saw the perfect illustration of this with Trump showing he’s not working. realizing it, and lies to cover it up when he claimed Hurricane Dorian was heading towards Alabama. This was only true for a tiny sliver of Alabama on models that had been out of date for about 4 days at the time of his announcement.
In fact all parts of Alabama were out of danger when he gave his web announcement. He later needlessly lied to cover his laziness. Since he had to pretend to be busy and informed he couldn’t look four days behind! So he faked it like a fourth grader, apparently scribbling in what we can only call “The Executive Storm Track” of the storm, with a sharpie, over other, legitimate models he displayed on a map. The map didn’t have the marking on it when they gave it to him. He literally extended into the storm track with a pen on his own…. or possibly had a aide do it, but he knew he was showing altered, inaccurate information.
Thats right, the president put a fake storm track that included Alabama rather than admit he was wrong. The only good news is like everything ls else he does it was obvious and badly done. I guess we’re left to wonder how bad things might be were he to get better at the lying. Maybe the problem is the lies are spontaneous and unplanned. Maybe its because they’re so huge and sloppily done to this point, but the president created the impression of danger anyone believing was real probably spends like 200 dollars preparing for. In the case of Alabama, you just had a needless financial burden thrust on you by Trump’s ego.
‘Solving’ the Created Crisis
One great thing about inventing a fake hurricane is being able to make it goins away! That Dorian Non-Strike on Alabama will be seen as a win by Trump. The other places where the storm could cause a problem can;t be seeing this delusion as a good sign though.
When a tweet goes sour or an idea goes viral in the wrong way the president will use the aforementioned “A Major Announcement is coming very soon” stall.
We’ve seen him claim credit for stuff he’s had nothing to do with over and over, or that were in the works for years if not decades , stealing the credit or blame from whoever really tried to legislate the issue. Problem solved. He feels he looked engaged and busy.
Then, a day or so later, an aide or cabinet member will say on the record the president wasn’t serious about the crisis he created or the horrible things he was ‘forced to say’.
Sometimes we find out that he’s simply bitching about something that was settled months ago. It’s just done for it to be on TV anyway. Again, he could care less how it plays. He considers it a win.
We just saw this in the Mexico Tariff Shell Game. At the last minute he pretended he had issues with Mexico and would impose tariffs. Then nothing happened and BLOTUS tweets he’s made a major deal. The Mexicans, for their part, were rightly confused and a little annoyed that an issue from a deal previously signed and settled is coming up again.
The media usually notes the deal is weeks or months old and there was never much chance Trump was going to do any of the things he threatened. It doesn’t matter, he looked busy. Mission Accomplished.
The Kremlin loves this too, by the way.
The president will make threats and spitball policy ideas on Twitter at 4:56 am and then not show up anywhere until like 1 pm. When the rest of America wakes up hes passed back out but it looks like he was working.
This is part of a deeper theory I have. It’s that Trump doesn’t fall asleep and wake up like a normal person. In fact I think he’s like 2 days of sleep behind all the time. This would explain his constant confusion and brittle disposition. He can’t ‘sleep’, he only passes out from being awake too long for say 4 hours about every 20 to 30 hours. 12 Diet Cokes a day will do that to you.
So in a nutshell; my theory is he passes out from sheer exhaustion (and a caffeine crash) after 20 to 30 hours of ‘wakefulness.” Less than 5 hours later he wakes up in a cold sweat screaming the moment his body has been in stasis long enough for his mind to start to panic again. Then he ‘wakes up’ and starts the cycle again. He’s never anything but overtired, grumpy and scared.
Most of the time in he’s just in a torpor half out of it half watching Fox News Opinion shows that tell him he’s great. This is so his ego never has to stop grazing.
This is maybe the Kremlin’s very favorite thing Trump reliably does.
The ‘president’ will just go somewhere and be completely inappropriate. Time and again we’ve seen him showing absolute contempt for his surroundings. He hates to work at all but has to make it look like he must be doing his job. Whether he looks like he’s doing it badly just doesn’t matter to him.
Be it standing in front of the CIA Wall of the Fallen while just lying about the size of the crowd and weather at his inauguration, saluting a murderous North Korean General, accepting Putin’s offer to investigate the 2016 Election, or sitting in front of the graves of 9,300 Americans who were killed storming the beach at Normandy; he says and does the wrong thing every time.
Remember last year when he shoved the Prime Minister of Montenegro out of the way? Or early in his presidency when he scared the shit out of thousands of Boy Scouts and angered their adult leaders with a crazy militaristic speech? That last disgraceful move has the president BANNED from any Boy Scout function. There’s a presidential first! The guy’s plain old inappropriate and he doesn’t care.
The president will act badly, provably lie and say completely inappropriate things in places you would consider sacred or at High Stakes Summits.
He has no idea about protocol and disgracefully supplicates himself to Putin and other nefarious figures regularly. He just wants the Photo Op to make it seem like he’s working.
He then dominates the news cycle with whatever disgraceful move he made, every crazy lie he told and/or bizarre threat he made.
Since getting on TV and getting things accomplished are pretty much the same thing to Trump, he considers it a win. At least no one’s talking about his terrible poll numbers or the multiple failed dictator moves like the Travel Ban, right?
Some people seem to buy it.
Fighting With Dead People
Death isn’t the end of Trump having a nonstop problem with you. No one is dead enough to escape his perma-rage.
One thing this president has shown is a boiler-plate pattern of being highly inappropriate and crude, especially about things that scare him. For instance – Military Heroes and the whole concept of death.
Usually it’s a beloved or revered Military hero that he focuses on. It’s the sheer insecurity of a Draft Dodger who didn’t even have the courage to say he was against the War. He just invented a disability and when the war ended he was magically cured. I’m sure most of the people with Incurable Bone Spurs would love him to share how he made them go away. No such luck.
Since dead people cant really fight back and he could care less how his words affect their families, he does it all the time. Be it refusing to lower the White House flag when John McCain died or mocking the parents of a soldier whose made the ultimate sacrifice, Trump feels like this makes him look on task and in charge.
Again, some people buy it.
Showing Off His Toys
Informal and insane statements while walking to his helicopter, with engine roaring, are a great way to look busy. So this is how we usually see Trump. The fact he usually yells when he talks anyway is slightly less out of place, but he makes up for it by being extra caustic in these moments.
So what if he’s flying to his own club to play golf or to one of his “Show-Rallies”? Any guy getting into helicopters that much must be working. Same thing with Air Force 1. He makes a few scathing comments in front of the plane, engines warming up, and he’s off.
Way to go, he just looked like he was working!
Why would anyone act so stupidly? The short answer is “Donald Trump is LAZY and BAD AT EVERYTHING.” This extends to, well, everything. Be it what he tweets or who he hires and even to what information he takes in. He’s not an able Chief Executive.
In fact, were Articles of Impeachment built around an inability to fulfill his Oath of Office as such it would be hard for anyone to argue it wasn’t valid and would probably pass the House of Representatives.
Ever since his unexpected win Trump’s shown he’s unable to fulfill the Oath of Office. Nonetheless, he’s the president. Could it be that the Russians were punking all of us AND Trump too ? Like maybe he never thought he was going to win? It’s pretty easy to make the case he wasn’t trying to win with insane ad hoc policies and actions we saw on the trail. He was on the Low Road the whole time.
He’s never spent 10 seconds considering the importance of his job or shown any reverence to the office he holds.
And those are some of the ways Trump avoids doing any work.
President Trump is so bad and so hard to take that he’s a one man case that we should fire our entire government and return to British Empire. If given our own parliament and a several party system maybe this fascist craze will just blow over?
After an apparently sleepless trip across the pond where Air Force 1 sadly didn’t crash into the sea Trump blew out a bunch of insults and went to go visit the Brit Royals.
While the entire idea of having Royalty is completely stupid, the two princes seem to sort of be painfully aware of this. They do what they have to do with some humility. Quiet, gracious and compassionate, they couldn’t be more opposite Trump. Seeming to be always trying to earn the high degree of admiration they were born into, there’s no not liking them. And some of the Royals are really easy to not like. I was born into it from my Irish heritage. I had some relatives who HATED the Royal family. Those were different royals though and a much different time.
Prince Chuck, The Queen, crazy old Prince Philip? Take your pick. You could go to town on them, but then again they are all possessed of a great deal more dignity than Trump.
I guess I just think of my old Uncle Paddy who fought in Easter Rising bashing the Royals and it’s a little hard for me to admit they’re titular heads of a better government than ours. But it’s a mental hurdle I’ve now jumped.
Mostly because of the Princes. They’re simply nice guys. They were even nice to Trump. The princes are polar opposites from the scamming lowlife Trump clan; whose patriarch bashed prince Ginger’s wife, Meaghan Markle for no real reason and then just lied about it.
Watching Trump around the Queen is way too close to watching ‘The Naked Gun; from the Files of Police Squad’! Always inappropriate, dressed like shit in an off the rack suit, the president looks bad all the time and is an un-funny Frank Drebin.
He’s been there 3 hours, lets see what happens when they stop praising him and he opens his blowhole.
Meanwhile, would you not trade congress for an immediate parliamentary election with direct representation on all levels? Then they can do things like just remove Kavanaugh from the Bench.
The people have proven they can be lied to and there’s been a few presidents, like Trump, Reagan and Nixon, who colluded with Enemy Powers to win their bids. Maybe the people here in America are just like the people of Westeros and deserve self determination? Make the president a figurehead and super-ambassador with no power and no pardon power, and no nuclear football! It’s not like Cocaine Mitch McConnell isn’t calling most of the plays anyway.
Why NOT a Prime Minister who could quickly be removed? The Trump nightmare would have been a six week footnote rather than a protracted time of intolerance and bad governance. Plus we get all the screaming and yelling of a parliament, which also makes lots of sense for America. Imagine 4 parties. Maybe more, but there’s a mandate to cooperate. Like we wouldn’t benefit from more cooperation?
I could easily foresee the GOP and Democratic party enduring, and maybe a moderate party from the right and the left in the mix may better represent us. The more moderates would have a greater ability to influence more policy. Maybe the other two parties would be the Progressives and the Libertarians? It probably wouldn’t be worse.
Maybe, just maybe, George Washington was wrong. Or perhap just took it too far. The Chief Executive Office has by all definitions grown beyond its original mandate and is prone to tampering. There’s a whole bunch of arguments about why congress is a mess. Why not a bicameral parliament?
Then there the Electoral College Choke-Point leftover from making room in the Constitution for slavery. It didn’t come out of anything good and lead to the Civil War and so many bad chief executives its can only be called bad. It’s purpose is long past. When it’s been successfully tampered with we usually get a terrible president. It needs to go.
The wave of protests against trump will surely be BFD when we see them eclipse him accepting accolades in the coverage of this humiliating trip.
Perhaps New York could petition to renew it’s Royal Charter and just join Canada?
Well it was only 10 minutes and delivered without emotion, but we finally heard directly from Robert Mueller. The full video is at the end of the post.
It’s hard to sum up how he really feels, he did provide some cover for Barr and say he wasn’t going to speak to congress. Here’s what went down
Mueller walked on and said he wasn’t taking questions and hoped to never speak in public about this again.
Then he basically disgorged his opinion of his legal mandate and goals. He cleared up who he was responsible to (mostly the Acting Deputy Attorney General) and what his mandate was. He stressed he could ONLY investigate. In other words – Mueller’s opinion of his mandate could be summed up as – He had investigative authority, but no legal teeth. The president is un-Indictable, at least by him, merely because he’s president and that’s all there is to that.
So after again thanking his team Mueller sort of underscored what he thought was the most important things in his report. It would seem to have a disregard for the present circumstance. At best it could be called forward looking.
We’re Under Attack
He stressed that there was a coordinated and elaborate attack on our 2016 Election by Russia. Both the Kremlin and some kind of private entities were involved. Wikileaks was used to launder the information and get the Russians some deniability.
He said it was done with the aim of ‘influencing” opinions and ‘to damage a candidate.’ That candidate can only have been Hillary Clinton. He didn’t speak her name, but really, who else could it have been? He repeated the interference was ‘extensive’. It seems pretty clear we saw Putin’s hand here.
Then he went to his report and specified Volume 1, which is about the Russian efforts and whether Trump coordinated with them. It was inconclusive as to direct conspiracy, but maybe not because he didn’t think Trump had tried something. He would refer to the limits of his mandate, that you can’t charge a sitting president, was the governing philosophy of why no charges were filed.
Then he specified Volume 2, which dealt with Presidential Obstruction and obstruction of the Investigation. Again he referred to his mandate and said there was no Indicting the president under seal either. So Mueller’s view is hands were tied.
With confidence he said in so many words “It’s UnConstitutional” for the Special Counsel to Indict a sitting president. He alluded to Justice Department policy as the reason that he could do nothing about Obstruction as far as charges and Indictments. He again alluded to his limited mandate as the big reason there was no charging Trump.
More than anything else he spoke of how very limited his legal mandate really was.
Over and over Mueller deferred to his mandate about not being able to Indict rather than cleared the president. He said plainly he had ‘no confidence’ the president had NOT committed a crime.
Mueller made it very clear he could not clear the president. This is about the strongest thing he could say under his interpretation of his mandate. He seemed to be saying that anyone else would be looking at getting arrested over this and confirming the broken nature of our Justice System. He seemed more concerned about the coming election than anything President Trump may have done to this point, despite saying he was prosecutable outside of Office.
It seems Mueller really wanted us to be aware he NEVER had authority to indict the president. He stated policy and law as to why HE COULD NOT INDICT OR CHARGE THE PRESIDENT, NO MATTER WHAT HE FOUND.
One curious thing he said was that since there was no method to try the president legally while he was in office he had decided he simply couldn’t charge him based on that. The decision notably was NOT because he didn’t think Trump was guilty. In fact, he seemed to be saying he thought the law shielded the president from the consequences of illegal behavior more than anything else aside from the deep concern over the next election.
He then again thanked his staff and categorized his staff and investigation were ethical and professional.
He repeated that he wasn’t taking questions.
Mueller- He’s Not a Player; He’s The Official
In essence Mueller didn’t so much punt to congress. That’s because PLAYERS punt. Mueller has cast himself (or felt locked to the role) more as the referee or some other official. So like an NFL official what he did was turn on his mic, address the crowd, explain the penalty and handed the ball to congress.
Could you say that when he hands the congress the ball on Impeachment it’s on the GOP’s own 20 yard line. Mueller’s message between the lines seems to be “You’ll easily score a field goal if not a touchdown if you pursue these charges I laid out because if he wasn’t president he’d be a criminal. He may just leave the White House for the Big House.”
Mueller may be right on about the biggest issue now that all is said and done being keeping the next election clean of Russian (and all other) interference.
Well if today had started out quietly at the White House you can throw that right out the window. A tweet storm is brewing over the word that Special Counsel Robert Mueller will speak to the media from inside the Justice Department.
Gathering Storm of Unknown Nature
Rep Gerry Connolly of the House Foreign Affairs Committee was quick to suggest the location, from within the Barr Justice Department, casts a shadow all it’s own over what’s going to happen in just about 2 hours.
Will Mueller show himself as the “Man of Conscience” his reputation suggests, or will we get a Barr-like series of equivocations? Or is he just trying to get out what congress would ask him without having to actually appear? It’s unclear. The good news? We don’t have long to wait to find out. At 11 or so this morning, Mueller will either drop a major WMD of a Truth Bomb or throw in with Barr. There’s signs pointing to both possibilities.
The revelation the White House was given a ‘Heads Up’ on this is not a reassuring sign though. What the president thinks about what we’ll all hear will, almost surely, be revealed through a childish tweet storm no matter what Mueller says.
One of the most successful (and nicest) people I know personally has got to be Cap’n Kirk Douglas. He was one of the many gifted musicians I met from the eclectic original players of Long Island’s East end when I went to Stony Brook University.
In my experience Kirk was always friendly and approachable, hes was welcoming of a newcomer and impressed me even then with his amazing guitar abilities. I was lucky enough to even jam with him a bunch of times. Obviously, I had my work cut out for me just keeping up. You could tell then there was something about him that set him apart musically from others. To me it seemed amazing competence and chameleon-like ability to play the right way for whatever role he took in any project.
Because at that time there were probably a dozen decent original acts from a pool of like 30 super talented people. I fooled them into thinking I was good enough to play with them and it was pretty great. It was a great time of expansion in my own musical life. Getting away from Queens for a while paid off creatively.
These days, as guitar player for The Roots he’s in many Americans living rooms weeknights laying it down with a variety of beautiful guitars. Last night I saw the first Hundred Watt Heart show. It was as at times as heavy as the single I had downloaded on the way. Guitar Driven is one way to put it.
Having only the Roots to go on I decided to do some preparation. I downloaded “I Used to be in a Circus”, the only available track as the record, Turbulent Times, only dropped today.
The song was great and honestly not what I had expected. You can hear it for yourself, but what caught my eye was what Google Music showed as the “related Artist”; Black Sabbath. The tile next to it was from Black Sabbath Volume 4, so its the older Sabbath that seems focus of the comparison
After seeing the show I sort of concur.
Some things that back up the Sabbath allusion would possibly be Kirk’s riff driven and solid. He has some Sabbath-like traits in his song writing. His vocal delivery was right on and full voiced. He delivered as hard as Ozzy in his prime (on a good night).
There’s a whole lot more to it than just that, but its not a bad thing to be compared to by any long shot. So I’m not the only one who sees something in this record.
Now, having now listened to the whole album I can see where the reviewer came up with the comparison Some of the songs have a Sabbath-like vibe and similar tone and heaviness, but Hundred Watt Heart, by intent, covers a lot more musical ground. For one thing, they don’t seem to have set out to sound like Black Sabbath at all. The similarity is Organic and stems from Kirk’s influences having some overlap with Tony Iommi’s is my guess. And while its easy and fun to compare bands, Hundred Watt Heart is actually unique. With the quality of pop music seeming to be trending down, here’s a listenable and sincere album that starts with an admission – These are in fact Turbulent Times. Why pretend things are great?
Its a solid and interesting guitar album and the songs are catch-y as Hell. While appealing and beautifully melodic, it’s confident and solid all the way around. I love the single ‘I Used to Be in a Circus” and ‘Uma’, with it’s blistering solo and brooding lyrics, might just be my favorite. It may just sound a bit like original Black Sabbath as well, but in the best possible way. To take it a step further, as a Black Sabbath fan myself, I found myself taking to this album in a big way.
Back to the show;
An hour and 3 el presidente beers after hitting Billyburg I was immersed in what Kirk accurately described as a sonic bath. I was pumped for the whole high energy performance. It’s hard believe 3 guys made all that noise. Mark Kelley (bassist for The Roots) and Ricc Sheridan (drummer for Earl Greyhound) join him on the record and this show.
First off – SEE THIS BAND! I hate everything and I even enjoyed it.
While I would not go so far as to say he sounds like Black Sabbath and the lyrical topics seem quite different from what I’ve heard so far, I can see how the critic who made the comparison came up with it. Unassuming and powerful would how I would describe the show. No punches pulled, mostly non stop music, though he did generously acknowledge the audience a few times. The club was packed and the energy was great. The band didn’t disappoint.
Hundred Watt Heart is a live show well worth seeing. Kirk’s vocals are right on as is his playing. Not to mention, he’s still a man of the people, the price of the show was completely affordable. Music came before money and I for one appreciated it. His A-List supporting cast on bass and drums was amazing. And lets talk about New York here for a second – Having an affordable but high quality evening out in a city that EATS money is not an everyday thing.
Considering there wasn’t a bad place to watch in Williamsburg’s interesting “Baby’s All Right” it was even that much more intimate. It also featured a super cool stage. You can only hope this show comes to your town. Hundred Watt Heart was amazing live.
I’m sure when more critics hear and review it we’ll get different comparisons, but I was lucky enough to get Kirk to agree to give me a clean reaction about the Sabbath comparison on audio and he was kind enough to agree. So I didn’t tell him what the comparison was, just that it sort of surprised me.
Still, I have to thank Kirk for being completely cool about this request for a reaction. No one respects Bloggers anymore, there’s been too many bad, biased and dishonest ones. Hey, I swim with sharks, right? He could’ve just said no and that would have been just fine; but he’s always been an open and friendly guy so I was comfortable asking him to give his reaction. It was a lot easier in fact than getting the audio on youtube. The video is what it is. Its about what he said.
So here’s Cap’n Kirk Douglas, leader of Hundred Watt Heart, reacting to being compared to Black Sabbath. Its rough, but you can clearly hear us. Not a youtube expert yet.
So there you have it, Kirk’s reaction and a great little Ozzy story you wont find elsewhere.