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Trump’s Sick Joke – Early Release for ‘American Taliban’ John Walker-Lindh

23 Thursday May 2019

Posted by therealmcteag in American Taliban, Crime and Justice, Domestic Terror, Domestic Terrorism, Domestic Terrorists, donald trump, John Walker Lindh, John Walker Lindh Release, Notable Traitors, Race and Justice in America, Trump Releases Violent Jihadist Early, White Privilege in Justice System, World Politics

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Its been a long time since the early days of the War of Necessity in Afghanistan. In New York City the smell of the destroyed towers still blew in toxic clouds to every corner of Manhattan at some point every day that dreary, angry fall.  It’s a time no one really wants to be reminded of. We mark it solemnly and move on because it’s still painful. Sadly this president trades in pain. Especially when he co-opts the pain of 9-11, an incident he made money off and lied about from day one.

As an insulting and offensive reminder of 9-11 President Trump allowed early release for a hated Traitor whose name is forever tied to that day.

Thanks to Donald Trump, John Walker Lindh is a Free Man. The president didn’t stop it for reasons all his own.

It looks to many like he just wants to minimize Treason and insult the CIA.

The Tale of Johnny Taliban

Very soon after the 9-11 Attacks, we got  real sickening surprise. Among the evil Taliban we found an American from California who just loved shooting at American soldiers with an AK-47. Somehow we took him alive. Maybe heroin had led him down a bad trail, you can see for yourself in the pictures he could have been drugged up, but it doesn’t really matter WHY he was shooting at Americans.

John Walker-Lindh was and is dangerous. He was then and he is now. Looking back to 2001 he was way too involved with the people who attacked America. He may have offered them some tips on how to fit in for all we know. As far as I’m concerned he may as well have been flying one of those planes

He took up arms against his country in very proactive way. Like shooting at people proactive, which is obviously really violent and extreme. We don’t know he didn’t manage to kill one of the Americans he was, lets face it, trying to kill!

Lindh was right there in it, he was captured on the 25th of November, 2001 just weeks into the war. To dispel any romance about him, he was on the run from US Forces for weeks and he surrendered when the rest of his unit gave up. So calling him a real follower seems fair.

He was down with al Qaeda. He MET Osama bin Laden! He was an enemy combatant. At just 20 years old he couldn’t even buy a beer. He was rightfully hated by Americans for his actions. And he’s still the same guy. Unrepentant and evil to the core.

People reacted emotionally to Lindh. Hatefully called “The American Taliban” or mockingly derided as “Johnny Taliban” he was scorned and would have been ripped apart by an angry mob anywhere in America.

A lot of people thought he should be shot on the pitcher’s mound of Yankee Stadium by an NYPD firing squad; and I would have bought a ticket. They would probably have been hard to get. He bought peoples anger right to the surface. I think it’s because he looked like any one of us if he cleaned himself up and could have done something sinister anywhere easily.

For better or worse, George W Bush’s Justice Department’s preferred image was that of  a ‘kinder, gentler’ Department, maybe even just a little more for white people. So in the end they gave him just 20 years. It was an unpopular outcome.  I considered it too light at the time. I still think it deserved no less than 25 to life. Or, hey, Death.

Trump;s Sick Johe-Now Lindh Walks Among Us

Thanks to President Trump, Now he walks among us. The 38 year old is a real threat to the American People and early parole just isn’t for people like him. I know I don’t sound too progressive here, but the Boston Bomber is going to die, why is Lindh walking free? Probably only cause he’s white.  I’m a strict Constitutionalist on Treason. If it’s really treason you should really die.

But he’s walking around Free and I think he’s looking for a way to hurt people. Obviously, he needed all of that extra jail time of that too short sentence and more.

Enter the Commander-in-Cheat blowing off an easy call – asking he remain locked up. If Lindh were an of Arab descent would he have been silent? because to Trump this wasnt worth so much as a tweet. Its like he lacks all connection and sentiment for his the his home town of New York Lindh helped attack.

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Trump Endorsing White Privilege

Let’s be honest; John Walker-Lindh owes his light sentence and his life to what amounts to White Privilege pure and simple. Does anyone think a fourth generation Pakistani-American would have gotten the same sentence? Or anyone but a white rich guy? White Privilege makes this release even more appealing to Trump.

Make no mistake the early release of John Walker-Lindh is tantamount to letting an aspiring Oklahoma City Bomber (at least) loose on the streets of America. He’s not ready for or deserving of freedom. He’s still a young man and he’s clearly had time to think up awful things to do to people he hates. I doubt he was reading the classics in prison. This guy’s a threat and should have gotten life. Or Death.

But John Walker-Lindh is a white guy whose family had some money. His more than decent lawyers got him charged with Providing comfort to the enemy and 20 years instead of Treason and Death. At the time it was seen to be a very brilliantly litigated legal coup by the defense. The sentence was considered by most extremely light in face of the facts we knew. Sold to the court as sort of an OCD Idiot who happened onto Islam, his lawyers did well. He’d walk free still a young man. I hated it.

It happened the way it did because there was an eagerness then to just want him to be misguided and maybe crazy rather than a guy who wanted with all his heart to kill Americans. It was done to make people feel like no sane American could ever do this willingly. It was saying that there wasn’t a terrorist lurking inside everyone waiting to come out. The guy was just another asshole. It made everyone a little less nervous.

We were wrong about all of that. Seems the only person who didn’t figure this out was ‘President’ Trump.

Nothing more than a letter to the parole would have been needed. Trump chose not to act.

Now President Trump is releasing Lindh early despite the charges of “Providing Support to the Taliban” being the sort of thing a self proclaimed ‘Law and Order’ president would rightly be expected to go hard on. But instead this accomplice to the murder of a CIA Agent will go free.

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A recently captured in Lindh in 2001

He looked like a Chechen rebel and maybe had powder burns on his face. If captured with the Nazis doing the same thing in 1944 he would have been tried and hung.

 

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Now and Then

After he was in jail in Afghanistan he still got into trouble again in a prison riot that cost the life of the very first American to die in Afghanistan, CIA agent ‘Johnny” Michael Spann. His daugter Alison Spann advocated strongly to his early release and I am inclined to agree.

Some prison recent prison documents in the form of his writings and a few statements show Lindh’s no more than an unrepentant fan of ISIS and a real jerk who might try something again. He probably should have served his time at GITMO considering these results. He’s learned nothing.

He’s as dumb as Trump and is now also his pawn.

Minimizing Teason and Insulting the CIA

So WHY the early parole? I see President Trump’s hand. He sees a chnce to both downplay Treason AND slap the intelligence Community in the face. Lindh was, after all, paty to  the killing of a CIA Agent.

It’s wrong and it’s UnAmerican that he serves one minute less than the 20 years. I saw what he helped do in New York, I don’t like the guy. Still, hows hating America and admiring ISIS ‘Good Behavior” for a guy who is supposedly getting out early for being ‘rehabilitated?

Trump’s wrong as always to allow this to happen. He loves that its happening and maybe he’ll mention it. Walker IS white though, so maybe not.

The only people who had a ‘Good Day’ on 9-11 were soulless Rudy Ghouliani who kust loved being on TV,  Lindh and Osama bin Laden for obvious reasons, and, no longer surprisingly, a lying, gloating Donald Trump. who spent the day lying and gloating and has amassed a heap of 9-11  lies since.

If you look at the people this president has pardoned or freed its a sad list of mostly true criminals, creeps and lately, military murderers (with the odd Kardashian-aided exception)

Its all to denigrate the office of president. I still believe thats his witting or unwitting Kremlin mission

 

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Truthing Chris Dorner-Playing the skeptic

17 Sunday Feb 2013

Posted by therealmcteag in Adam Lanza, Assault Weapons Ban, Carjacking, Django Dorner, Django Dorner psych profile, Domestic Terrorism, Domestic Terrorists, Dorner 'single shot'

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Will he be a Folk Hero? Was he a rogue cop or a Robin Hood? Was he a man broken by society or a man who simply hated a society he felt put him at a disadvantage and failed to live up to his ideals, as

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perhaps the most disturbing Chris Dorner Image of all. Is this man worthy of any respect or adulation?

utopian or realistic as they may have been? Did he aspire to his several distinguished accomplishments, such as achieving Officer Rank in the United States Navy, because he loved the adulation society has lauded, justifiably, on these figures? Or was Chris Dorner merely looking for more control of the world around him and simply a possessive boyfriend to his own distorted view of reality?

One disturbing dimension of the Chris ‘Django UnBadged‘ Dorner story is a heroic view some people absolutely have for him. From tribute tattoos to numerous facebook groups, some of which have about 5 thousand members.

In short, was this a man off the reservation, broken because he attempted to be honorable in a dishonorable world? Or was he simply a bitter man who was justifiably exposed as unworthy to carry a badge?

Is Chris Dorner a Terrorist?

Dorner’s motivation was laid out in his manifesto. He was clear in who he wanted to punish, who he considered legitimate targets. Despite differentiating in whom he would kill his actions still qualify him as a terrorist of the homegrown variety. His war on society was born of his own experiences and his perception of the world seems to have revolved around respect. He needed and craved respect and perhaps in some ways power as well. He certainly exercised the power of life and death wantonly during his “Operational Phase”.

His reputation meant a great deal to him. Dorner may have been proud to a fault. Certainly any personal sleight was viewed with deep and abiding anger that would not dissipate as it does for most people.  I assert that Dorner was exhibiting OCD in his need for control and respect.

No one, especially not the LAPD or San Bernadino Police, have too many answers yet but one thing about Chris Dorner we can be sure of is he made an impression on society.  Some will make wild conspiracy theories and others will glorify him. I will play the skeptic. Conceded though; the Dorner case as of now has many more questions than answers. It’s hard to call a search which cost innocent lives inept without sounding cold blooded, but that word was invented for this sort of situation.  He was hiding literally across the street from search Head Quarters. Did he bumble into this or was he stalking his prey? This one we can never know but its worth further examination as facts emerge.

My theory on Chris Dorner is that he was a de facto domestic terrorist and, also and perhaps more specifically, a disgruntled employee workplace spree killer as well.

Some aspects of Dorner’s behavior showed some compassion and a discrimination in victims. It’s important to remember how this distinguishes his attacks from those of McVeigh but compare favorably once again to the Unabomber. He did not kill wantonly; he was specifically hunting and killing former colleagues.  He was described as ‘calm and professional,’ by those whom he carjacked and kidnapped. It would have been far easier to kill these people and made him more a terrorist.

While the behavior of Chris Dorner is paradoxical he is still a Domestic Terrorist by virtue of his grudge against the police. He compares favorably with a view of the Unabomber as a domestic terrorist in that he also targeted very specific people in the initial assassinations which began Dorner’s spree , which also included those with whom he was once a colleague, in Dorner’s case it was Law Enforcement Officers whereas the Unabomber singled out people based on his perverse scale of his view of a person or locations complicity with or specific to the furthering of any technology .

Terrorism Theory Paradox

The paradox is where the ‘McVeigh Factor’ figures in. In other words, how focused and cruel was he as well as what their level of precision in the prosecutions of his attacks by comparison to Timothy McVeigh, the textbook Domestic Terrorist? The heart of the matter is- How deeply and passionately did they believe in what they were doing and how intentional was the Terrorism aspect of the attacks on society.

The bombing of the Murrah Building by Timothy McVeigh , on April 19, 1995 (Hitler’s Birthday and anniverary of Waco Massacre) is considered a crucial moment in the National Consciousness and marked the beginning of Domestic Terror. The word “Domestic Terrorist” was likely coined for exactly this act. Chris Dorner has a lot in common with Timothy McVeigh, including being a war veteran and former military.

 Timothy McVeigh is the prototypical domestic terrorist. His act was heinous and, though he had not  targeted it intentionally, he inadvertently concentrated the destruction on the buildings day care center and killed 19 children under age 6 as well as 157 others with another 680 hurt, many very badly.  McVeigh and Dorner BOTH considered themselves soldiers.In the case of Dorner his method of attack, personally shooting people, was simply more ‘surgical’ than a truck bomb. Was Dorner a more precise McVeigh? Was he simply channeling the extreme violence more efficiently? I would say the answer to this is a resounding YES.

Theory on Motivation & Speculation on current known Facts

By virtue of the behavior which got the  Unabomber and Timothy McVeigh labeled as such,  I would say that we can only consider (the late?) Chris Dorner a Domestic Terrorist with overtones of disgruntled workplace shooter.

Operating Under this theory I will try to apply scientific methods of sociology and the social sciences as well as psychiatric analysis to examine any and all Dorner Truthing. If I cannot debunk something I will admit it. I will be fair and apply police science as well examining the motives and behavior of Dorner.

Botched Manhunt; Is Chris Dorner Really Dead?

I will also focus on the COMPLETELY BOTCHED MANHUNT where they didn’t even bother to check the house ACROSS THE STREET FROM THE Multi-Agency Police/Federal  MANHUNT HEAD QUARTERS where Dorner was actually hiding out, either brazenly or ineptly. Was he a lion stalking gazelles at the oasis and considering a later abandoned Asymetrical Warfare plot? His will to live and continue his rampage was always at the heart of his motivations. Perhaps in his inner “Risk / Reward Analysis” he gained more by hiding in plain sight than another direct attack? One with pretty much zero chance of survival? He did not go out easily. It was an ending worthy of ‘Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid‘ and only semi suicidal.

The world will await positive DNA before conspiracy theories can be quashed. There’s a slim but real chance the botched manhunt and subsequent fiorefight could have killed someone other than Dorner. If Dorner is alive though, he will continue to attack so this theory has a brief shelf life as of now.

I am openly skeptical of a Dorner suicide unless he was dying and feared capture. If he thought he could kill even one more cop he would have held off any alleged suicide.

I dislike the suicide theory also because it conveniently paints him a coward while still being wildly unsubstantiated.

Intentional Fire Theory- There seems little doubt an already sloppy law enforcement effort went from bad to worse in just seconds. Police made the emtional decision that no more of them will die to take Dorner alive. This is justifiable considering how dangerous he was. The evidence lay dead in the snow amongst them.  The Dorner cabin WAS certainly torched, either by intent or with complete disregard for the consequences. The police being terrified is one possible explanation. Right now it has the advantage of adding up as well or better than any other theory out there.

Whats your Dorner theory? Comments are Enabled!

_ In a curious aside I believe the Fish and Game Police are also the ones who caught the Manson Family. More on all of this to follow soon.

to read more check out this article by my fellow blogger proparanoid. I disagree with some of the preliminary conclusions, but the article has a great, complete timeline. Points out some of the really pertinent question  http://proparanoid.wordpress.com/2013/02/22/12-frightening-new-questions-illuminate-the-dorner-urban-legend/

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Ted Nugent- Dedicated Servant of Darkness-

12 Tuesday Feb 2013

Posted by therealmcteag in #toc, ar-15, Assault Weapons Ban, Dedicated Servants of Darkness, Did Wayne LaPierre Serve in Military?, Domestic Terrorists, Dystopia, Famous Murderers, Famous Spree Killings, Gabby Giffords shooting, Glenn Beck, GOP FAILS, GOP sucks, guns in america, Notable Draft Dodgers, Political Satire, Ted Nugent State of the Union

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Ted Nugent proving he's no coward by volunteering to fight on the losing side of a war that ended 150 years ago

Ted Nugent proving he’s no coward by volunteering to fight on the losing side of a war that ended 150 years ago

Some people would find an intellectually challenged admitted serial pedophiliac, mediocre guitar player, subpar singer and a poorly spoken man paid to speak his mind as a terrible ambassador for your ideas. The Teahadists of the GOP right would NOT be among those people. He proudly will attend the State of the Union to counter what he calls “Props”, the survivors of gun violence.

If the intellectually challenged Nugent had his way he would have the now abandoned Sandy Hook Elementary school would be reopened as a Range where only extended clips would be allowed. Actually, that’s far too creative and sensational for Nugent, who is a bore, so thankfully that will never happen…. at least not because of Nugent. His Lord and Master Wayne LaPierre might have the savvy to jump onto that bandwagon, but Nugent is not a creative type, which is why he failed in Rock N Roll.
How bad is Ted Nugent on guitar? Cat Scratch Fever was judged to be so simplistic and annoying by my guitar teacher that he decided the first song I would learn would be “Breakin’ The Law” by Judas Priest, a much more interesting song and gets points for brevity. Brevity and being entertaining is something Nugent, an entertainer by trade, is horrible at. Think of it like this-in the 3 minutes or so that is the lifespan of a song Nugent manages to get across zero emotion, no narrative, and on his best efforts you can’t get through 90 seconds. This is when the guitar solo usually kicks most songs

Nugent is known to brag of his exploits as a pedophile

Nugent is known to brag of his exploits as a pedophile

into high gear. In the case of Nugent the ‘solo’ is a sophomoric mess of unrelated notes that are occasionally in key. To most people the beginning of the guitar solo is the final insult when listening to Ted Nugent, so most people have no idea how any of his songs end.
Ted Nugent is a Dedicated Servant of Darkness. Tonight he will sit in the audience as President Obama delivers his State of the Union Address. Will he make good on his threat that if Obama were reelected he would be dead or in jail within the next 59 days? The chances of that are about as good as the odds he will dress appropriately.
Ted will inevitably be there in the camouflage he wears to hunt, which is not unlike the camouflage he refused to wear to

This is about the most entertaining thing that Ted has done, act like an idiot

This is about the most entertaining thing that Ted has done, act like an idiot

defend his country in Vietnam. Draft Dodger Ted Nugent, who was so afraid to go to serve in the Vietnam War he shit himself for weeks just thinking about it,  loves to talk tough and make grandiose threats of violence, but when the time came to serve his country overseas in time of war “Terrible Ted” chose to eschew all personal hygiene for weeks and pretended to be crazy (he was still relatively sane then) so he would NOT have to put on the uniform of the country he hates, the United States of America. While many refused to serve in the Vietnam War for moral reasons, they had the courage to face the consequences. Accountability is not a trait possessed by Nugent, a craven coward.
Sure, Ted will scream all day that he loves America, but he loves it the way a possessive abusive guy loves his girlfriend; within strict limits and only on his terms. It doesn’t matter what the other party wants, or in this case 330 million other people think, they are all just letting Ted down; just like he let down the record companies who foolishly signed him with pathetic album sales.
But, more than anything aside a glass of freshly tapped unbaptized baby blood, Ted Nugent loves himself. He will say anything, do anything and lie about anything he needs to in his endless self promotion. What does Ted Nugent believe? Well, how much is in it for him? If he could make more money as a democrat he would be one. Sadly, democrats, who are obsessed with Hollywood and celebrity find Nugent distinctly boring. So boring he can’t even get a decent reality show deal. This is probably because insanity, selfishness and gun craziness are demographics that are already well served by far more interesting and less offensively boring people.
Nugent, who keeps his Bushmaster within easy reach at all times in case someone tries to harm him, is actually quite safe due to his being inconsequential. A failed Rock Star with below average guitar skills he has less talent than Britney Speers, who can at least say the horrible songs she released were written by someone else. Despite this Nugent thinks he’s Angus Young. Take it from another guitar player. Ted Nugent is as close to Angus Young as Australia is to the Sea of Tranquility.
A lesser Limbaugh who lacks the charm and charisma of a Glen Beck or the gravitas of Alex Jones, Nugent is the rarest of all things, a boring insane person.
Far too stupid to align himself with something as interesting as Satanism, he serves the God Mammon, which of course is money incarnated as a False God. This is nowhere near as cool as George HW Bush painting his plane like a giant Satanic Bat to scare the Japanese. That’s right, there’s someone even more boring than George HW Bush.

He also is different from George HW Bush in another important way; George HW Bush had a sense of honor. When it was time for war, Bush bought it and fought for a country he loved (in his perverse way), the U.S of Fucking A. He may have been better at getting shot down than completing his missions, but he gleefully joined the Navy and got to kill actual people directly with his own hands. George HW Bush also had a flaw that Nugent would find repulsive, that despite being a below average president, he actually had the pride, good sense sense and was upright enough to call Nugent’s Lord and Master Wayne LaPierre the jerk that he is and quit the National Ted-Nugent2-668x501Rifle Association. Equally repulsive to Nugent would be that George HW Bush actually loves America and eagerly put on his countries uniform. He never saluted any piss yellow snake flag in his life. In fact he made burning Old Glory a crime. Rest assured that the quiet feeling of pride we all have when we see the American Flag snapping in a brisk October wind at Yankee Stadium is something Nugent has never felt.
He’s sort of a reverse Shaquille O’Neal. Shaq leaves the house and its news; Shaq endorses a car, you’ll probably consider its

for the sake of fairness - Not everyone named Ted is a boring dick

for the sake of fairness – Not everyone named Ted is a boring dick

merits. Even in music Shaq has outsold Nugent with the infamously bad “Shaq Diesel” phase where he rapped. Whereas The Big Aristotle is always amusing, engaging and funny, Nugent is always predictable, poorly spoken, uninteresting and clears the room anytime he gets near a microphone, or worse yet, a guitar.
While certainly droolingly insane, he fails to generate any real interest from terrestrial radio in secondary markets. While he bragged openly about having sex with underage girls, of which Courtney Love admits she was one, when she was 12, Nugent can’t use booze or drugs as an excuse. This is because he is far too boring to ever envision things beyond the edge of his dick. A dick we can safely assume is pretty damn small, although Courtney Love’s mouth is so big you could lose an aircraft carrier in it and therefore not use it for a comparison, his overt insecurity gives us a pretty good indication he’s overcompensating for something. Since he has repeatedly touted his skill on guitar we can rule this out. He’s just too dumb to realize he’s terrible at it. That leaves us with his ….his personality…such as it is.
Nugent is a Draft Dodger, a kook, a liar, a self admitted pedophile and about to fail again as he will surely prove he has neither the guts not the integrity to rid the world of himself by getting killed or locked up. Or maybe he will. One way or another we wouldn’t know for weeks if at all. He simply

From the brochure for Ted Nugent's Summer Camp for Kids, apparently the 2nd Mile foundation turned him down because he was too much of a pedophile

From the brochure for Ted Nugent’s Summer Camp for Kids, apparently the 2nd Mile foundation turned him down because he was too much of a pedophile

isn’t that interesting and has too few fans for anyone to care. A dying career in the dying medium of terrestrial radio he’s goon and a ghoul. I would hope that Ted Nugent stays in his deer stand for the State of the Union.
By virtue of his selfishness, inarticulate nature, inept guitar skills and unapologetic love of sex with underage children I hereby confer upon Ted Nugent the title of Dedicated Servant of Darkness, joining Wayne LaPierre in my Hall of Ignominy. He is just the second person to earn this title in the entire (5 month) lifespan of this blog.

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Revenge Killer / Domestic Terrorist Christopher Dorner- DJANGO UNBADGED!!!

09 Saturday Feb 2013

Posted by therealmcteag in 1st hand accounts of spree killers, 2nd Amendment, Adam Lanza, Assault Weapons Ban, Django Dorner, Domestic Terrorists, Dorner 'single shot', Dorner 1-13-13

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UPDATED 10:42 PM 2-17-13  Psych Profile included.

UPDATES- Dorner Terrorist Behavior Paradox-

[As the world awaits DNA confirmation, questions linger. Chris Dorner kidnapped and carjacked people, but after his initial assassinations he only ever attempted to kill police. All victims described him as ‘calm’, and ‘professional’. He was behaving in a perverse soldier-like manner. He may now be more a super violent and capable disgruntled workplace killer more than anything else. Were he truly a domestic terrorist, would he not have killed all he saw? The Paradox is that by actively tracking and killing cops while avoiding non assassination related collateral damage he was still furthering a war upon the Guardians of Society and intended to live so he could further prosecute it. He was a one man ongoing criminal enterprise. He was a de facto Terrorist simply because he was attacking police. He still possesses many traits of Terrorists and other notable spree killers. He may have seen himself as something of a Robin Hood]

You don’t need to be Fox Mulder to see that Cop Killer and Triple Murderer Christopher Dorner, 33, holds a grudge against society, especially the police, and is full of himself. That much is evident just on the surface. The question of what motivates this man however is open to speculation. Here’s my psychological profile sketch of Christopher Jordan Dorner,a man currently on the run, armed and dangerous and waging a violent one man war.

At this point, despite looking like the nicest guy in the world in every single picture, Christopher Dorner has killed 3 people. One attack was a pre planned hit on the daughter of a former colleague who had served as his advocate when he was fired off the LAPD and her fiancé. Then he ambushed 2 cops, killing one. Astoundingly this is one of two attacks on police, Dorner fired at 2 more policeman not long after.  This was unprovoked and Dorner covered a lot of ground, like 100 miles,  even stopping at a Naval base, as he went about his spree. It’s possible that in his state of rage he simply couldn’t resist attacking police officers, but this seems unlikely. He is operating with forethought and planning. He also found time to mail some creepy stuff to Anderson Cooper and ditched his identification and perhaps his badge near LAX.

DJANGO UNBADGED! Revenge Killer Christopher Jordan Dorner

DJANGO UNBADGED! Revenge Killer Christopher Jordan Dorner

Dorner is a Domestic Terrorist. He has declared war on the Government and the society that he swore to protect and is perversely rationalizing it. He has killed and seems eager to do so again. He said in his manifesto he was going to use asymetrical warfare and maybe he is having some success. He may have left that false trail in the woods and managed to somehow double back or make it to his hypothetical stashed vehicle. You need only see a couple of John Wayne movies to know THAT trick. How much more advanced survival and asymetrical warfare knowledge Dorner may have is still unclear. In his Naval career he was trained to survive as something of a counter insurgent. He is highly proficient with firearms. Not quite a SEAL, but still pretty formidable, especially when coupled with the fact he is pretty

Despite appearances the well armed Dorner is capable of extreme violence


Despite appearances the well armed Dorner is capable of extreme violence

intelligent. According to ABC NEWS the arsenal he had access to is quite impressive and includes, and i kid not, a shoulder fired rocket launcher! He is considered a pistol expert and also may have things like semi military grade modified civilian automatic rifle of some sort and a sniper rifle. How well armed he is right now is still an open question.

Now, in the depths of a blizzard, which for Dorner could be a blessing or a curse, SWAT teams and FBI Agents are closing in around an 8 square mile area in California’s Big Bear Park where Dorner MUST be if he didn’t have a vehicle stashed to leave the park. People are spotting him everywhere and there’s a lot of misinformation. He may have tried some kind of nautical carjacking or Yacht Jacking or something, so I suppose he’s a pirate now too. Later on it came to light the torched truck had a broken axle. It seems likely now that this was NOT part of Dorner’s plan. He probably had no get away vehicle stashed, or simply no way to get to it in a blizzard.

Unbelievable. We now have a serial Killer who preys on Cops and is armed, motivated and operational. It exhibits what history will call a sad state of affairs for early 21st century America. He has many traits in common with other prominent killers.

In some ways he is like the Unabomber Ted Kaczynski when you read his internet  rantings, which just reeks of grandiose self importance and a hatred of society in general. He seems something of a Conspiracy Theorist in his worldview. The general tone of the writings is much like the Unabomber.  Both of their manifesto’s exhibit a profound disappointment with where America is right now, feeling it should be more like their own utopian views. They also share the experience of having achieved respectable positions in society and shown an inability to handle them. They both then funneled this into a thoughtful, purposeful rage which he somehow maintained for an extended period of time. At this point “Hyper-enraged” may be the only way to describe this guy other then Domestic Terrorist.

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It’s a bit unnerving how amiable and nice he looks here. What happened to this guy?

Dorner is also a Timothy McVey type. He is cagey. He may have a survival hutch OR if he is as smart as he has shown to be so far he is smoking a joint in Tijuana looking for a way to Cuba. Like I said, there’s still no knowing if he is in that area.

What concerns me is that because he was long time military and also a cop he will perpetuate negative stereotypes about cops, African Americans, Veterans and other noble people when this guy is only really one rogue example. He is definitely quite taken with himself and if he doesn’t skip to Cuba or go freeze to death in the woods he will most definitely NOT cap himself until his last round. He will go out shooting should he fail to make good on escape. Though likely not averse to what would be a unique take of suicide bu cop, he is not suicidal in the conventional sense. He has shown no inclination to put himself at a disadvantage to enable “Suicide by Cop” as we know it. He very much wants to stay alive.

UPDATE 2-13-13  Last Stand Theory Proven.

If the body found in the burned out cabin turns out to be Dorner, my prediction he would not commit suicide will have more or less proven true. Though not down to his last round he was most definitely trapped in a very serious structure fire and burning or dying of smoke inhalation and no longer was going to be able to harm anyone else. In his mind he likely felt he had accomplished his mission, which is disturbing evidence of how unfair life is and how twisted Dorner was.  It was said a single gunshot was heard, followed by many shots as Dorners ammunition popped off from the fire. Its possible he was dead from previously received wounds and the single gunshot was simply the first of his ordinance to go off from the heat. An autopsy report is pending.

While he may have taken his own life and cheated the hangman, it came after killing another cop and shooting several others in a series of increasingly one sided engagements where he was at a serious tactical disadvantage. Though unable to evade the authorities any longer he displaced a couple of times with an apparent continued attempt to improve his tactical situation . He continued attack as well as continue trying to escape. He staged a last stand worthy of the final scene of “Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid“.  As I predicted he went out shooting for the most part.

CNN said its possible he is very heavily armed with military or near military grade weaponry. I salute the brave Peace Officers who pursue this horrible menace and cancer upon our society. I can only hope he will be captured alive so

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Seems so trustworthy. “Sure I’ll help you move! Don’t worry about it!”

that he can be slipped the Needle Of Justice after a fair (and hopefully fiasco free) trial.

Christopher Dorner’s manifesto, truly the diary of a madman, leaves us no doubt he’s a twisted husk of a human being. Broken, evil and willingly harming people. Whatever good man he ever may have been dissolved into a sea of hate. He is not unlike Colin Ferguson, a spree killer I actually met several times, in his self entitled and grandiose view of the world.

A former girlfriend of Dorner’s described him as a self hating black man and pressured her to ‘act more like a white woman’. She also recommended to stay away from Dorner “if you value your sanity”. When the women posted her feelings on Dorner to a website he sought an Order of Protection against her. His worldview is like that of Colin Ferguson in the sense he has an obsession with racce. The biggest difference is that Ferguson was a militant hater of White people and Dorner is apparently struggling with feelings of racial inferiority. Attaining a respected positions in the military and being a police officer would have made most people secure, it seemst his was not the case with Dorner. Dismissed from the Navy earlier this month for failure to advance in rank (and who knows what else), losing the only respected position he had left is a likely catalyst for his rage killings.

It also concerns me that because he distinguished himself at some points in his life, people may try to make him into a robin hood, which he is most definitely not. He is a reprehensible man. I have been through as bad and hurt no one.  He is in no way justified and the LAPD may have made a rare good call in dismissing him.

There is increasing evidence to suggest his firing was justified and that he had made the “False Statements” against his training officer after he had had received a poor rating for his performance as a Police Officer. Among the things that disturbed his training officer, the person against whom he found to have made the false statements about, was Dorner losing it and crying on duty. He had also requested re-integration training and tearfully asked to be taken back to the Police Academy for more training.

As of right now, 11:15pm Pacific Time US Eastern time,  the Manhunt is still working on the theory that Dorner is in an 8 square mile area of Big Bear State Park near where his torched car was found. The likelihood this was a false trail left intentionally is steadily increasing. The media seems increasingly sure that Dorner is very well armed, perhaps even having a .50 caliber Sniper Rifle. If he is still ‘operational’ and looking to kill more cops he HAS succeeded in luring them into an ideal area to snipe them as the terrain is described as relatively rugged with high grounds and shallow valleys. It’s also a brilliant ploy to misdirect manpower and make the search slow, painful and frightening. The FBI & SWAT personnel I saw on TV looked distinctly uncomfortable. This is important because these are the toughest cops available and you can be sure many have been through dangerous situations already, perhaps several times. Most time these elite type cops look cool and professional no matter how bad the situation.

Sadly elsewhere in the blogosphere there has been some sympathy and a romanticizing of this guy as some sort of folk hero. Lets hope it doesn’t perpetuate.

– CNN has just reported that Dorner has some aviation skills and may have the ability to pilot a plane. He may still be able to add skyjacker to his already impressive list of heinous felonies.

– UPDATE 10:14 PM PST-2-11-13 CNN is now describing Django Dorner as a ‘Trained Assassin’. The reward for information leading to his capture has gone from 40,000 USD to a cool $1 Million Dollars

UPDATE- 10:14 am PST 2-11-13—-LAPD has lifted the “Tactical Alert” for Chris Dorner. Schools in the Big Bear Park, where his torched vehicle was found. It’s starting to look like no one has any clue where Django UnBadged is.

Chris Dorner likely died in this structure fire. The manhunt is announced suspended as of 4:14 pm PST

Chris Dorner likely died in this structure fire. The manhunt is announced suspended as of 4:14 pm PST

Update- 10:09 PM Pacific Time- CNN has reported that Dorner’s torched vehicle found in Big Bear Park had a broken axle. Cold weather survival gear and camping equipment as well as some sort of generator were found nearby. This would indicate either the vehicle faiked and gutted Dorner’s plan or he was laying yet another false trail. However the possibility that Dorner has either become lost or froze to death in the woods is increasingly likely. The idea that a heavily armed and motivated killer like Dorner would go 5 days without striking are the best evidence he’s either dead or smoking a joint in Havana.

UPDATED 4:45 pm Pacific Time – 2-12-13-Django Dorner has killed one police officer and wounded another in whats shaping up to be a final conflict. He may have hostages. Remarkably he was still in the area of Big Bear Park. Apparently he attacked rather than try to flee.

UPDATED 1:08 AM  – A body has been recovered from the burned out cabin that the man police believe was Django Dorner was holed up after yet another shootout with members of several different law enforcement agencies who converged upon his location. No positive identification has yet been made. The blood orgy of Chris Dorner is likely over. Early indications was that he took his own life in the flaming cabin

UPDATE- the charred remains found in the cabin have still not been identified. The possibility of him becoming this generations D.B. Cooper on top of everything else is becoming a distinct possibility. This whole story has “Truthing” written all over it. They need to ID those remains fast or, like John Dilllenger, questions about the legitimacy of the corpse will persist. This become someone’s pet conspiracy theory.

UPDATE 4:02 PM PST– Law Enforcement Officials announces Dorner Press Conference will begin in minutes. CNN has reported Dorners wallet was found at the burned out cabin and there will likely be no further evidence of body authenticity such as DNA likely available yet. Details to fillow after press conference

UPDATE 4:02 PM PST- Media openly question police search meathods. Police maintain they made extensive search. The initial speaker refused to answer the question about what looks like a botched search by the local Big Bear Police, whose chief was introduced to answer the question. Reports were that civilians in the search area never saw the authorities at any time. CNN cites local residents as saying no one ever knocked on their door. A complete fiasco that empowered the final killing spree if true. Positive identification was still not made. The search is over per Police. The Police indicated they would know soon, implying they awaited DNA.

CNN Analayst and former NYPD chief William F Bratton characterizes the press conference as ‘strange’ and that it ‘provided very little information.”

Bratton has expressed skepticism of the ‘single shot’ aka suicide shot’ theory. Bratton speculates Dorner was already wounded, probably badly.

UPDATE 2-14-13 5:07 PM PST- Authorities are citing dental records as positive identification of the remains from the burned out cabin as those of Christopher Jordan Dorner. No DNA evidence has been released as of yet. Questions will linger until this is provided. In all likelihood though, Dorner, the Domestic Terrorist they called “Django UnBadged”; is dead.

HIDE IN PLAIN SIGHT

UPDATE 11:46PM PST–

While there is still no DNA evidence to confirm the body recovered from the burned out cabin is that of Chris Dorner, authorities have confirmed that during much of the manhunt Dorner was hiding in cabin across the street from the Command Post. If there was ever a case where authorities were more inept please leave me a comment. Even Lee Harvey Oswald was captured the same day and he only killed at most 2 people.

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